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Carnivore on Rogan

@tim-2 why did he mention to avoid salt?  curious on that one

@tim-2 "Your only worry about amount and frequency
is the fattening starch (glycogen) in it"

"Avoid salt"

LOL glycogen in the liver will make you fat and avoid salt on keto diet? What a joke..

@orion @jiri

He was a very eccentric character. He was a sound engineer for the Grateful Dead and an LSD chemist. He also had far from perfect health while following the meat diet. His writings on nutrition are not logically sound lol. I was just pointing out that he was possibly more successful long term than some other carnivore dieters due to understanding the toxicity of liver consumption.

Quote from tim on January 19, 2021, 10:20 am

@orion @jiri

He was a very eccentric character. He was a sound engineer for the Grateful Dead and an LSD chemist. He also had far from perfect health while following the meat diet. His writings on nutrition are not logically sound lol. I was just pointing out that he was possibly more successful long term than some other carnivore dieters due to understanding the toxicity of liver consumption.

not possibly, but for sure.. I also don't understand why carnivore people like Baker or Saladino don't speak about iron toxicity danger when you eat so much red meat + organ meats daily.. It is common sense that if you don't bleed often you will accumulate toxic amounts of iron overtime. Good example was Fran Tufano which is like 25-30yo kid who was eating carnivore for years and end up with iron toxicity and liver damage. Now he turned 180 and eats things like this lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y500YVV-Fk&t=1s

Wow that was quite a post, @tim-2.    (the long quote by the godfather of carnivore)   I'm glad you posted it.  I too am not intending to become carnivore any time soon, but find this very cool info for those who do.  

My guess might be that if you are eating the electrolytes of other animals, as long as you aren't throwing anything out, maybe they should already be balanced.  And if you add more salt, you might put the balance out of whack.

A type 1 diabetic on carnivore might be the only one I could think of that might have a bad reaction to the amount of carbs that are present in animal foods.  I do remember an MD who was type 1 who did adopt an ultra low carb diet, although I don't think he was carnivore.  He wrote a book that is strangely never discussed.  I wonder if it is because when going ultra low carb you can still be VA toxic.  (like Butter Bob)

Regarding iron, I can't help but think that many a human being through time has been carnivore... or at the very least high in the meat macro nutrient.  I'm guessing that iron overload is a result of unwellness, (and perhaps rare mutations) and not necessarily from eating lots of meat.  ?

Quote from lil chick on January 19, 2021, 10:52 am

Regarding iron, I can't help but think that many a human being through time has been carnivore... or at the very least high in the meat macro nutrient.  I'm guessing that iron overload is a result of unwellness, (and perhaps rare mutations) and not necessarily from eating lots of meat.  ?

Nobody was eating 2kg of red meat and plate of liver every day and also the main elimination of iron is blood loss. People had all kinds of parasites, were fighting, hunting = loosing blood=iron all the time... Simply the only significant way how to eliminate iron is with blood loss. If you are not loosing blood and eat a lot of iron from animal foods. You will accumulate that iron exactly like vit A in the liver and it will case huge health issues. Because iron is crazy strong oxidant..

@tim-2 I wonder what is lost from meat(chicken/turkey thighs) when I cut them to small peaces, cook it in the water and then rinse all the liquids and eat only that solid stuff. The whole purpose of this is to eliminate basically all fats that are high in omega 6 and retinol, but do I loose also things like minerals and vitamins? I think so..