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Beef, Vitamin C, and Iron Overload Caution
I recently found out Vitamin C increases iron absorption, actually I knew in October but I don’t know why I didn’t look into it further. Maybe it was because my doctor said my hemoglobin is in normal range.
I had been taking 3000mg of Vitamin C while eating beef 3 times a day for more than 6 month, and getting worse this short time frame. My sensitive to magnetic fields was also increasing dramatically.
I finally took an iron panel test and it came back high. Here are the results.
Serum Ferritin 532 range is 30-400 ng/mL
Iron 127 range 38-129 ug/dL
Iron binding capacity (TIBC) 233 Range 250-450 ug/dL
UIBC 106 range 111-343 ug/dL
Iron Saturation 55% range 15-55%
My increased sensitivity to EMF’s may be due to my increase in iron. The numbers above does not tell me how much iron is in my tissues and organs but I suspect it’s higher.
We shall see when I reduce my iron, if my symptoms decrease as well. Seems the best way to reduce iron is through blood loss, sweating during high intensity exercise, maybe saunas will have the same excretion.
Iron overload also increases inflammation if I recall correctly.
Vitamin C increases iron and oxalate absorption and increases endogenous oxalate production. I don't think supplementing with C is a good idea but if one does they should always take it well away from meals.
Your ferritin is really high, I'm not surprised you are sensitive to EMFs.
I think you said your D levels are low despite supplementation? Iron lowers D.
Discovering iron overload and getting phlebotomies could be a turning point for your health. There is little point in trying to avoid dietary iron (aside from iron fortified foods and maybe switch to a mix of red and white meat), you will lose close to nothing sweating. You will probably need many phlebotomies to get your ferritin down to normal.
Riboflavin is good for iron metabolism - it helps to release the stored iron from the liver and get it back into the blood , if you donate blood.
And probably would be good to switch to protein sources as egg whites and chicken breast - low in iron for some time.
Yes I my D has been known low since 2011. Good memory! Wow good to know iron lowers D. Im haven’t been taking C for a few months now. And avoiding too much beef.
I’m eager to draw some blood.
I hope my doctor will write up and order for a therapeutic phlebotomy. I got this iron test on my own.
Quote from bludicka on December 19, 2019, 10:39 pmRiboflavin is good for iron metabolism - it helps to release the stored iron from the liver and get it back into the blood , if you donate blood.
That's really good to know. Mobilizing stored iron seems to be an issue for many with iron overload.
It makes sense to have plenty of B vitamins, sodium, potassium and magnesium in ones diet after a blood letting and to take plenty of D as well.
Quote from bludicka on December 19, 2019, 10:39 pmAnd probably would be good to switch to protein sources as egg whites and chicken breast - low in iron for some time.
I don't agree with that, I think it would be a good idea for him to consume some more white meat though instead of only beef. Red meat is the best source of B12, zinc and some other nutrients. Better to just get rid of the iron through blood letting.
Low fat yoghurt is low VA, that might be a good food to introduce since it is a good source of riboflavin, contains no iron and contains calcium and other things that inhibit iron absorption.
Quote from tim on December 19, 2019, 11:04 pmQuote from bludicka on December 19, 2019, 10:39 pmAnd probably would be good to switch to protein sources as egg whites and chicken breast - low in iron for some time.
I don't agree with that, I think it would be a good idea for him to consume some more white meat though instead of only beef. Red meat is the best source of B12, zinc and some other nutrients. Better to just get rid of the iron through blood letting.
But eating beaf 3 times a day for more than 6 months... he has plenty of zinc and other nutrients. How can be someone deficient in zinc with this diet? And many minerals and nutrients as B12 are stored, unfortunately iron too. Zinc can be stored for a few months too. The iron overload is now much higher priority than "zinc and B12 deficiency".
Quote from bludicka on December 19, 2019, 10:39 pmRiboflavin is good for iron metabolism - it helps to release the stored iron from the liver and get it back into the blood , if you donate blood.
And probably would be good to switch to protein sources as egg whites and chicken breast - low in iron for some time.
Thanks Bludicka
i do already have som B2/b3 which I bought for my iodine Protocol. Good to know. And I’m so tempted to try the lactoferrin, but I’m hesitant to introduce something new that I might have an adverse effect with.
May have to just do the bloodletting and sweating to begin with and see how I progress.
Thanks everyone for your invaluable advice and comments. I’ve been having major health issues mentally and physically since 2011, and its been one hell of a rollercoaster ride. At least now I have something measurable that I can tackle and work towards. The second thing after reducing my iron will be chelating mercury from my 8 fillings that I’ve had over 30 years.. I’ve also eaten A Lot of Vietnamese pho with rare steak and have always loved eating fruits(vitamin C) for the past 15 years!
I will give updates as things progress!
There's also creatine, taurine, carnitine etc, people can be low in B12 despite consuming red meat. He will be blood letting for much longer than 3 months, probably years to get his ferritin down to optimal levels so he will need plenty of zinc in the diet. With a ferritin level that high he will probably want to lose blood for the rest of his life. I think men should all be blood letting every few months for optimal health anyway. There's plenty of heme iron in chicken breast too so switching to that will not necessarily slow down iron absorption that much anyway.
Quote from tim on December 19, 2019, 11:38 pmThere's also creatine, taurine, carnitine etc, people can be low in B12 despite consuming red meat. He will be blood letting for much longer than 3 months, probably years to get his ferritin down to optimal levels so he will need plenty of zinc in the diet. With a ferritin level that high he will probably want to lose blood for the rest of his life. I think men should all be blood letting for optimal health anyway. There's plenty of iron in chicken breast too so switching to that will not slow down iron absorption that much anyway.
Wow Tim , are my numbers that bad? I’ve read people using iron chelator only at serum ferritin 1000 or above. But I suppose if my health is any indication, I would have to agree with you.
There are some conflicting info on iron in chicken breast, some says half as much as beef and some say very little at all. I guess I have to cut down on chicken as well for now....it’s gonna be hard to maintain weight with out meat I’m thinking