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Covid vaccine
Quote from leap7 on August 16, 2021, 12:05 pmIf you had to get the Covid vaccine, which one would you get? Do any of you have personal experiences with this vaccine? @orion I saw on your log that you got it, did you notice any thing since then? I am asking because a lot of places are requiring it. I may just give in and get the least problematic one.
If you had to get the Covid vaccine, which one would you get? Do any of you have personal experiences with this vaccine? @orion I saw on your log that you got it, did you notice any thing since then? I am asking because a lot of places are requiring it. I may just give in and get the least problematic one.
Quote from r on August 16, 2021, 1:08 pmpersonal opinion :
My sister recently gave me tetanus booster shot, I didnt know it was actually a vaccine , but later on as I did the shot , My Vitamin A symptoms got back and persisted for days and days . It even brought back stool bleeding for somedays
My take on vaccine , it wreaks havoc on liver and vitaminA status , best is to avoid it
personal opinion :
My sister recently gave me tetanus booster shot, I didnt know it was actually a vaccine , but later on as I did the shot , My Vitamin A symptoms got back and persisted for days and days . It even brought back stool bleeding for somedays
My take on vaccine , it wreaks havoc on liver and vitaminA status , best is to avoid it
Quote from Orion on August 16, 2021, 2:34 pm@leap7
I had pfizer(1st) and moderna(2nd). First shot was sore arm, second shot knocked me down for about 36hrs, chills, fever, like a quick flu, but I am an outlier in all my friends, coworkers and family, no one had a reaction like me. All good now, but seems to me that having lower VA stores, my immune system went into overdrive on the second shot, not sure if this a real good thing, or bad... hoping it's the first
I had pfizer(1st) and moderna(2nd). First shot was sore arm, second shot knocked me down for about 36hrs, chills, fever, like a quick flu, but I am an outlier in all my friends, coworkers and family, no one had a reaction like me. All good now, but seems to me that having lower VA stores, my immune system went into overdrive on the second shot, not sure if this a real good thing, or bad... hoping it's the first
Quote from Beata on August 16, 2021, 3:03 pm@leap7, someone sent it this to me today. I am not intending to start a discussion about the pro or against the vaccine. I am just passing on the message.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/FPehpfdTleDo/
@leap7, someone sent it this to me today. I am not intending to start a discussion about the pro or against the vaccine. I am just passing on the message.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/FPehpfdTleDo/
Quote from lil chick on August 16, 2021, 4:04 pmAbout 30 years ago I had a bad reaction to a vaccine. I sort of think that is when my "autoimmune" issues really kicked into high gear. It took me a couple years in which I still vaxed my kids, but over time I finally became an anti-vaxer. It was a slow process because I was brought up very pro-vax. Vax are literally meant to goof with your immune system, and mine is already mixed up enough that I don't want it mixed further.
Please don't get a vax just in order to "get along" or even to work. You get a vax for one and only one reason: because you have determined you want it for your health.
People should, for instance, research what is in it. We here research everything we put into our mouths. I'm not sure the world even really knows the ingredients list to these vaxes. I've heard there is no insert in the box of vials. Don't know if that is true. But I would ask for a complete list. You'd ask for that of your breakfast cereal, and your almond milk!
About 30 years ago I had a bad reaction to a vaccine. I sort of think that is when my "autoimmune" issues really kicked into high gear. It took me a couple years in which I still vaxed my kids, but over time I finally became an anti-vaxer. It was a slow process because I was brought up very pro-vax. Vax are literally meant to goof with your immune system, and mine is already mixed up enough that I don't want it mixed further.
Please don't get a vax just in order to "get along" or even to work. You get a vax for one and only one reason: because you have determined you want it for your health.
People should, for instance, research what is in it. We here research everything we put into our mouths. I'm not sure the world even really knows the ingredients list to these vaxes. I've heard there is no insert in the box of vials. Don't know if that is true. But I would ask for a complete list. You'd ask for that of your breakfast cereal, and your almond milk!
Quote from Moebius on August 16, 2021, 4:16 pmSomeone showed me this link a couple days ago. Chilling. http://areyoucrooked.com/ A doctor photographed babies before and after the vaccines. Their faces become asymetrical, like a stroke survivor. And this asymmetry follows you through life. That link has a lot of documentation.
Someone showed me this link a couple days ago. Chilling. http://areyoucrooked.com/ A doctor photographed babies before and after the vaccines. Their faces become asymetrical, like a stroke survivor. And this asymmetry follows you through life. That link has a lot of documentation.
Quote from wavygravygadzooks on August 16, 2021, 5:12 pmBret Weinstein is often discussing the pros and cons of the Covid vaccine on his Darkhorse podcast. Between listening to him, reading Mercola's articles, and listening to Yeadon, I think the current takeaway messages are:
(1) the vaccine does appear to convey some level of protection against the original Covid strains, less so against the latest variants, and probably significantly less so against inevitable future variants.
(2) the long-term risks of the vaccine cannot be known.
(3) there are short-term risks, which can be extremely serious (paralysis, death), occur more frequently than with "traditional" vaccines, but are still relatively infrequent among the population.
(4) widespread use of the vaccine appears to be increasing the rate at which new variants become dominant, and therefore diminishing the effectiveness of the vaccine (due to the high specificity of the spike protein antigen in the vaccine becoming ineffective against the mutated spike proteins on the variants).
(5) the choice to get a vaccine should weigh the risks (known and unknown side effects, evolutionary pressure to produce more variants, encouraging the widespread use and in some cases enforcement of an experimental vaccine) against the benefits (continued employment, effects on social life, protection against a potentially worse case of Covid).
As much as I think this particular set of Covid vaccines is terrible, I can't blame those people that rushed to get it for fear of dying from the virus. All of the BS messaging from up high has scared the crap out of everyone, including myself...but my fear of unproven, novel technology and the corporations peddling it is greater than the fear of this particular virus. If you have the means to avoid getting a Covid vaccine, my recommendation would be to avoid getting it as long as possible and rely instead on the alternative treatments like Ivermectin in the event that you do contract the virus.
Bret Weinstein is often discussing the pros and cons of the Covid vaccine on his Darkhorse podcast. Between listening to him, reading Mercola's articles, and listening to Yeadon, I think the current takeaway messages are:
(1) the vaccine does appear to convey some level of protection against the original Covid strains, less so against the latest variants, and probably significantly less so against inevitable future variants.
(2) the long-term risks of the vaccine cannot be known.
(3) there are short-term risks, which can be extremely serious (paralysis, death), occur more frequently than with "traditional" vaccines, but are still relatively infrequent among the population.
(4) widespread use of the vaccine appears to be increasing the rate at which new variants become dominant, and therefore diminishing the effectiveness of the vaccine (due to the high specificity of the spike protein antigen in the vaccine becoming ineffective against the mutated spike proteins on the variants).
(5) the choice to get a vaccine should weigh the risks (known and unknown side effects, evolutionary pressure to produce more variants, encouraging the widespread use and in some cases enforcement of an experimental vaccine) against the benefits (continued employment, effects on social life, protection against a potentially worse case of Covid).
As much as I think this particular set of Covid vaccines is terrible, I can't blame those people that rushed to get it for fear of dying from the virus. All of the BS messaging from up high has scared the crap out of everyone, including myself...but my fear of unproven, novel technology and the corporations peddling it is greater than the fear of this particular virus. If you have the means to avoid getting a Covid vaccine, my recommendation would be to avoid getting it as long as possible and rely instead on the alternative treatments like Ivermectin in the event that you do contract the virus.
Quote from lil chick on August 16, 2021, 6:49 pmWavy has a good list there, and I might add the fear of ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) a thing that has been seen in trials of other vaccines for other covid-like diseases. You do develop immunity that seems fine but then some time later you have a massively wrong reaction to a wild version of the virus.
Wavy has a good list there, and I might add the fear of ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) a thing that has been seen in trials of other vaccines for other covid-like diseases. You do develop immunity that seems fine but then some time later you have a massively wrong reaction to a wild version of the virus.
Quote from Tanveen on August 4, 2025, 1:05 amhttps://www.drtrozzi.news/p/covid-injections-unveiling-the-mechanisms
https://www.drtrozzi.news/p/covid-injections-unveiling-the-mechanisms
Quote from Tanveen on August 6, 2025, 1:01 pmOften it’s said that only people with underlying conditions are said to have bad reactions but there are some top athletes who have had bad reactions (Heiko Sepp)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gkQYUPCKo6A
Often it’s said that only people with underlying conditions are said to have bad reactions but there are some top athletes who have had bad reactions (Heiko Sepp)