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Grant genereux reverse detoxification
- poisoning setback, I am sure that the detoxification setback that you have at 99% is due to iron accumulation at the liver level. What causes iron to accumulate is supplementation with zinc, fructose and vitamin C. That's why those who follow a carnivore diet don't have that detoxification setback. Without copper, iron accumulates in the liver to very dangerous levels. Most of you here eat a diet very high in zinc and very low in copper. and you take things that aggravate the situation zinc vitamin c supplement. Grant Genereux's diet was high in copper. coffee, cashews, brown rice. Here in this Mercola article he explains it very well. https://www.tomecontroldesusalud.com/2022-09-15-l-suplemento-de-cobre-morley-robbins/
With iron toxicity, zinc does not enter the liver and vitamin A cannot leave the liver. Copper is very important for detoxification of vitamin A. and most of. People are taking things that cause iron to accumulate as it is a low-copper diet. hence the reverse of detoxification
I don't think it's true that carnivores have an easy time of detox. WavyGravy had the runs for a long time.
I'm pretty scared of supplements at this point in life, they do seem to goof people up. Zinc supps make me feel ill. A friend, who is a WAPF'er, and probably high in VA, took copper supplements and they made her feel very ill. We both drink the local water which is high-mineral content, and perhaps already get more than enough minerals for our bodies to cope with.
I am starting to suspect that I personally might need more vitamin C in my food, especially around times of illness, but I don't think I'll be supplementing, just garnishing with squeezes of lemon and chunks of pineapple.
Some people have copper pipes, and will probably be getting lots of copper.
Over time, I've stopped thinking about nutrients as see-saws. (@El, just incase this doesn't translate, a see-saw is a children's plaything in which when one side is up, the other is down) In my opinion, they aren't. I think the popular see-saw effect is a bit too simplistic.
I think you are right there is some relationship between VA overload and iron overload. It seems some people who become VA toxic are also iron toxic. (even before they hear of Grant's idea).
@grant genereux
What do you think, do you think that the poisoning setback is due to copper deficiency, as Mercola indicates in the article?
Not sure that I think thats the reason people get the setback, but I do agree with you about people here having iron issues revolving zinc and copper. A lot of the people I've seen on Vit A detox are pale like vampires, thats because their iron and copper metabolism isn't working properly. When I take just zinc or manganese (copper antagonists) I become super pale and also look older. When I take copper then I have good colour in my face and look younger because my copper levels are restored and iron metabolism is working better. Copper also makes me tan in the sun where as if I am just taking zinc then I don't tan in the sun and stay pale and my energy is way better from copper. My neurotransmitters also function better with copper and any social anxiety disappears, as copper is needed as a cofactor for MAO enzymes.
A lot of people have been wrongly brainwashed on here that supplementing copper is unnecessary and dangerous due to certain peoples opinions. Not everyone needs copper supplementation but some people do.
The issue with copper supplementation is you need good potassium and magnesium levels on a hair test and healthy/strong adrenals to use it properly. If you don't have those then the copper won't be bioavailable and you won't feel good taking copper and you could store it somewhere in the body like the liver or brain where it becomes unbioavailable where it starts causing oxidative damage. If you have a bunch of excess cu2 trapped in the liver that doesn't oxidise down to cu1, then you also won't be making sufficient ceruloplasmin to use copper in the body. Copper supplementation only started working for me after I had done 3 months of daily coffee enemas, before then I was disgusted at the thought of taking copper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugZbbwMMFM&t=1376s&ab_channel=MattBlackburn this is a good video about copper
Quote from AlexM on November 1, 2023, 6:40 amNot sure that I think thats the reason people get the setback, but I do agree with you about people here having iron issues revolving zinc and copper. A lot of the people I've seen on Vit A detox are pale like vampires, thats because their iron and copper metabolism isn't working properly. When I take just zinc or manganese (copper antagonists) I become super pale and also look older. When I take copper then I have good colour in my face and look younger because my copper levels are restored and iron metabolism is working better. Copper also makes me tan in the sun where as if I am just taking zinc then I don't tan in the sun and stay pale and my energy is way better from copper. My neurotransmitters also function better with copper and any social anxiety disappears, as copper is needed as a cofactor for MAO enzymes.
A lot of people have been wrongly brainwashed on here that supplementing copper is unnecessary and dangerous due to certain peoples opinions. Not everyone needs copper supplementation but some people do.
The issue with copper supplementation is you need good potassium and magnesium levels on a hair test and healthy/strong adrenals to use it properly. If you don't have those then the copper won't be bioavailable and you won't feel good taking copper and you could store it somewhere in the body like the liver or brain where it becomes unbioavailable where it starts causing oxidative damage. If you have a bunch of excess cu2 trapped in the liver that doesn't oxidise down to cu1, then you also won't be making sufficient ceruloplasmin to use copper in the body. Copper supplementation only started working for me after I had done 3 months of daily coffee enemas, before then I was disgusted at the thought of taking copper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugZbbwMMFM&t=1376s&ab_channel=MattBlackburn this is a good video about copper
I am sure that the majority stop their improvement due to copper deficiency. Both zinc, vitamin C and fructose supplements are copper antagonists. Many people improve this setback by drinking dark chocolate that is high in copper. low copper high iron, high iron low zinc, low zinc, vitamin a toxicity. Gareth Smith looked pale in all the YouTube videos he uploaded these years, until he started donating blood. People do not do well on this diet because they abuse the zinc and vitamin C supplement. 80% take zinc supplements. That will lower the copper more and be more toxic in vitamin A.
I think El is speaking reason here. I no longer take any mineral supplements, IMO there's too much potential to cause more harm than good. There are at least one human and one mice study where they gave a modest dose of zinc and it cause people and mice to become almost diabetics with very high blood sugar levels and all kinds of harmful effects and we are talking about just 15mg dose of zinc. G Smith is giving his cult members multiple times more. 😵💫
Quote from Arket on November 2, 2023, 6:42 amI think El is speaking reason here. I no longer take any mineral supplements, IMO there's too much potential to cause more harm than good. There are at least one human and one mice study where they gave a modest dose of zinc and it cause people and mice to become almost diabetics with very high blood sugar levels and all kinds of harmful effects and we are talking about just 15mg dose of zinc. G Smith is giving his cult members multiple times more. 😵💫
Extres is the body's inability to create energy so that the mind can respond to the environment. That is the beginning of every disease, infection or parasites, remember it all. Good day. So there is no disease, there is mineral disturbance caused by stress and dysregulation. That makes you sensitive to any external stimulus. A simple germ, a simple layoff will both create the same symptoms. There is an enzyme, the enzyme kinase, that in extreme situations and more so when it is recurrent, removes a phosphate from the component and when this phosphate disappears, magnesium is lost as waste in the urine. When we are under chronic extremes, cortisol increases the production of a protein called melalothionein. Up to 45 times that protein binds copper with a thousand times more force than it binds zinc which basically eliminates the copper leaving nothing for energy production in the body. Copper eliminates oxidative stress and there is a network of antioxidant enzymes that depend on it. Without copper, iron also accumulates to toxic levels in the body. With high iron, magnesium and vitamin D decrease and vitamin A accumulates at toxic levels, since vitamin A depends on copper to carry out its functions.
- the beginning of all illness. It is iron and vitamin A toxicity produced by failure in cooper metabolism.
Since I have been eating dark chocolate high in copper, my liver enzymes have improved greatly and are the same as when I was young. and I eat 2 kilos of oranges a day, which is a lot of vitamin A. The diet low in vitamin A with beans made my liver enzymes rise a lot and I was always white and pale. It was eating dark chocolate and getting tanned and healthy. Milk and cheese make me insomniac since they give me a lot of energy