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wikipedia: VE, Taurine, Red Yeast Rice, VK
- Vitamin E appears to be an effective treatment in rabbits, and[43] prevents side effects in chicks[44]
- Taurine significantly reduces toxic effects in rats.[45] Retinoids can be conjugated by taurine and other substances. Significant amounts of retinotaurine are excreted in the bile,[46] and this retinol conjugate is thought to be an excretory form, as it has little biological activity.[47]
- Red yeast rice ("cholestin") – significantly reduces toxic effects in rats.[48]
- Vitamin K prevents hypoprothrombinemia in rats and can sometimes control the increase in plasma/cell ratios of vitamin A.[49]
I was searching wikipedia for other reasons, and found that this article had some suggestions about treating VA toxicity.
This is why I say Red Bull (taurine) every few days isn't such a bad thing and why almond milk (vit E) is very good. Cabbage is great because it has no vit A but supplies K1 and vit C and other nutrients.
I am wary of alternative health practitioners now. Does anyone know why red yeast rice (and vitamin E and K) are presented as being good by Dr Berg in relation to vitamin A toxicity? (I am not promoting red yeast rice and have not tried it, just wondering about the reasoning behind it)
Does red yeast rice work like a statin?
Also, it notes a problematic interaction with niacin that could effect muscles in this article (not sure of the mechanism)
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-red-yeast-rice/art-20363074
The little I know yeast supplements are a hard no for me. Both from experience and reading.
My understanding of vE is that it drives vA harder deeper into liver. Not sure how long that lasts. I do keep solgar liquid E in the fridge. It works better than anything I found so far on burns. I rarely use it anymore.
I still supplement vK2-4 occasionally. When varicose veins get bad it helps. Hemorrhoids are varicosities. It has helped there. Also when I get inexplicable hard to heal bruised, a day or two of vK2-4 helps alot. I am slowly learning of vK's role in helping calcium too. UVB is involved as well.
I used to listen to Berg. He started keto a few years after I did. Pretty gung ho guy now. Selling organ meats and supplements hard. A little disappointed with his non-responsiveness on questions about vA and looking at this blog too. He used to read and respond to most comments on his youtubes. Not so much now.
When younger, I used to sometimes use vitamin A oil on scars and I think it helps the healing process - shame it doesn’t do the same inside the body.
Solgar often use soya so I don’t like using the brand.
I don’t follow Dr Berg (very wary of influencers/alternative practitioners who don’t suffer any consequences if you get sick) - someone sent it to me after I told her about vitamin A. Most influencers just seem to be there to exploit you in a different way to doctors.
Quote from Tanveen on August 30, 2025, 9:35 amWhen younger, I used to sometimes use vitamin A oil on scars and I think it helps the healing process - shame it doesn’t do the same inside the body.
Solgar often use soya so I don’t like using the brand.
I don’t follow Dr Berg (very wary of influencers/alternative practitioners who don’t suffer any consequences if you get sick) - someone sent it to me after I told her about vitamin A. Most influencers just seem to be there to exploit you in a different way to doctors.
Solgar's vE oil is in wheat germ oil. The vA was destroying epithelial cells compelling your skin to replace them. It does do the same inside the body. The inside epithelial tissue is just more sensitive and less in need of prompts to destroy and replace cells. I want to say we get a new colon wall every 4 days or something like that. Zero need to kill those colon wall cells faster.
I think Berg believes his dogma. Confident he is eating / doing what he advocates to clients. Like all of us he is learning as he goes along. Like all of us he was wrong before he came up with the current paradigm. We will all be wrong when we come up with the next paradigm shift.
What consequences do you think practitioners should suffer in order to make them more trustworthy?
I need to think about that…
legal routes don’t seem to help (very small amounts over a long period of time so hard to prove causation and damage for eg vitamin d or carotene added to food). Legal protection for vaccine companies and now big chem trying to do the same. Hard to check eg vitamin A levels in the body as we know blood tests may not capture amounts in tissue and most people won’t have data/ liver biopsies over a period of time
less censorship on people being able to comment so we know when things are going wrong for people (but the big social media channels are implementing censorship / have an agenda so hard to get around that). Fact checking - the results seem to depend on who is doing the fact checking
Regulators / fines - but we know they are captured. If they were doing their job, they would have been looking into this.
I’m not sure. May be it means taking back power in some way and setting up local groups to distribute information, where people know each other and have social bonds so there are consequences for getting it wrong (eg if the well water in olden days started poisoning people, people would soon figure out that there was something wrong in the water and it would be checked out. Now we have lost the connections that meant there were consequences for actions. People can say what they want (which is good re free speech - even though we don’t have it in reality) but the propaganda/manipulation is hurting people, so these people can say what they want/sell supplements without any recourse.
We all need to think about it. Living in a low trust society that we thought was high trust is a task in itself. First task is recalibrating who is trustworthy. Next task is realizing what structures in society or practical in terms of their function and in terms of their security. How well does that old pickup truck work? How easy is it to repair? How easy is it to get parts? More than that, how easy is it to protect from bad faith actors stealing or damaging it?
That old truck is our society. We were raised to believe we were in high trust life. We concentrated on ideologies. As if life was good and all we could do to improve was tweak a few ideas and get a little closer to perfection.
What we are going through now is the disillusionment that came to both the Prince and the Pauper.
Besides figuring what ideas work better, it might help to figure what ideas we have the power to implement and or remove when they do not work.
Quote from Joe2 on August 30, 2025, 12:32 am
My understanding of vE is that it drives vA harder deeper into liver. Not sure how long that lasts. I do keep solgar liquid E in the fridge. It works better than anything I found so far on burns. I rarely use it anymore.
Can I have a link to the study, please?