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Quote from Jiří on April 9, 2025, 12:49 amQuote from Janelle525 on April 8, 2025, 12:49 pmDo you use iodized salt? I was using that for a few months and started develop cystic acne which I never used to have, I do struggle with a few zits here and there but never the type that are so inflamed you can't even pop them. Switched back to redmond's real salt and it cleared up.
Like very small amount of iodine gives you acne? If that is the case you have some serious toxicity issues. Iodine detoxes other halogens from he body as well as metals like mercury and also iodine is needed for detoxing excess of estrogen from the body. Most people are iodine deficient I would say. Try some other sources of iodine what it does.. Really most negative reactions to iodine are detox symptoms. But if you have amalgams for example I wouldn't take a lot of iodine. Because you have constant mercury coming in..
Yeah it was just iodized salt so not much. But whatever is in there is not just iodine like you get when you go to the ocean, Garrett Smith talks about how the supplemental forms are terrible. I do have two amalgams left.
@griffin they can tolerate such high doses, because most of it is not even absorbed. I mean how absurd is taking egcg at the same time with minerals. That egcg will bind those minerals in small intestine. Even if you would take those minerals without egcg you will never absorb so much at once. That's why it is recommended when you want to saturate your body with zinc for example you should take small doses like 5mg every couple of hours. That way you absorb much more than taking 100mg at once.. Also there is no reason to take vitamin C without any buffer like baking soda(sodium ascorbate) high dose ascorbic acid is very acidic and will pull alkaline minerals from your body..
@orion I will try 1 cap EGCG without zinc/moly for like 10-15 days and will do blood test. I think my copper will be crazy low, but if createor of HG7 is right copper should be high..
@jiri I'm at day 45 on the full stack, and getting good results, will do at least 180 days to make a determination, will try too keep you in the loop as I go along!
@griffin If you want to DM me on the toxin forum, I have same userid. This is just my perspective, but acne is low zinc. Stirring up iron and copper with this stack sent my skin into worst state ever and now turning to the best its ever looked. The idea of excreting them and getting zinc back in, seems to hold for now. Sounds like zinc had this affect on you, so this could be something to experiment with. I do like the fact that this protocol has fast turn around results, stuff happens quickly.
High vitamin A depletes zinc
All western processed food is fortified with iron, mainly in all the wheat we eat. Copper like VA is in pretty much all foods. We could be overloaded with all three
Accutane is known to mess with iron and copper levels, and their metabolism, there is a connection there somewhere.
I'm not a paid member of the lowtox forum so not sure if I can send anyone messages? I've had issues with the forum blocking my access before so I may have to pay to keep accessing the forum.
I do find the zinc theory compelling. I believe the creating of the protocol states zinc is competing with iron and copper for the came cellular receptor cites in the body. Considering we have fortified our foods with so much non heme iron it is plausible to assume we now have too much in the body. Iron is also very prevalent so that could be another issue.
Ill definitely keep monitoring the feedback from the HG7 protocol. Will be interesting to see how it turns out
@griffin I will try to keep you updated here, I am still at the beginning, so this may or may not pan out, if things look good at 180 days, I will probably advocate for trying it, otherwise on to the next theory and experiments! If you do try, let us know how it goes
@alex3 appreciate the feedback, but I've actually consulted half a dozen natural paths over the last 6 years. Have tried basically every diet aside from strict vegan and currently leverage all of the lifestyle hacks; morning sun, blue blocking glasses at night, WiFi off when sleeping, regular sauna use, donating blood every 8 weeks.
This is a pretty aggressive form of acne. My dermatologist has told me I'll likely have it for the majority of my life or at least until I'm in the elderly years. Still hoping this vitamin A theory holds some truth, but will continue to explore alternative theories.
@jessica2 Back in 2020 I started a strict version of the carnivore diet(PKD) that was zero carbs and low protein. The idea was to get into deep ketosis. I stayed on that diet for 18 months, but only saw marginal improvement in my skin. Also developed a litany of other issues, which I've theorized was from the 400 grams of liver per week the protocol recommended.
I definitely think too much sugar can be a problem for acne and this was likely a contributing factor when I was younger. The main form of sugar/carbs I currently eat is white rice. I actually seem to do quite well with this, despite it being a higher glycemic food. Overall my carb intake isn't too high, probably around 100 grams most days. I try to only have 1-2 meals with carbs to prevent constant insulin spikes throughout day. In the last few weeks I've slowly transitioned back to a more carnivore style diet with some white rice and parsnips for carbs. I spent the first 11 months on low vitamin A eating lean meat and higher fiber foods, but this seemed to make my issues worse. I think the low fat was contributing to constipation and reduced bile flow.
Appreciate the feedback
Hi! My guess is if you've tried everything you are probably a person whose body likes to detox through the skin. Maybe you could even think of your problem as as helpful. Maybe do things knowing that. Gentle things that help the skin detoxify. Water, soap, warmth, sun, sweating, lymphatic massage, movement. The greeks used to use a gentle scraping.
I don't think you are on the wrong track to reduce vitamin A. But. As we know it burns going in, and it burns going out.
@jessica2 I actually spent a few years back in 2018-2020 on a plant based version of paleo. I was still eating small amounts of white fish and eggs, but most of my diet consisted of leafy greens, sweet potatoes, brown rice and quinoa. This seemed to completely ruin my health. I've determined beta carotene is actually more inflammatory for my skin than retinol, but I'm currently avoiding high sources of both.
I don't doubt that some people can be successful on plant based diets, but I didn't seem to be one of them. I'm curious if the years of fortified milk and cereal saturated my liver to the point where beta carotene was just being sent to storage in my skin tissue. I know people claim it has a much lower absorption rate, but I do think it can still be inflammatory for the body to deal with.