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Algae contain a lot of beta carotene, algae oil does not contain any vitamin A according to nutritional information. Is the beta carotene destroyed in the manufacturing process to oil in some foods?

For example, linseed/flaxseed oil has no vitamin A, but flaxseeds have a lot. Olives have also beta carotene but in this case the oil contains also Vitamin A.

Does anyone have an explanation?

Those oils do have plenty of carotenoids, the scientists who are making those nutrition databases are lazy and stupid.

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Additionally, the clearer the oil is, the less carotenoids are in it. So some processed oils do have less carotenoids than their virgin oil counterparts. There are some heavily processed olive oils that have way less color than virgin olive oil for example. But they don't have zero carotenoids, so whoever entered a zero into the nutritional database made a mistake. 

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Salt, tell us how you really feel!  hee hee  (your comment about scientists made me smile)

Yes, I do think that we need to take what is said on nutrition lists and especially on the back of packages of food "with a grain of SALT"!

I also think things vary a LOT.  One chicken might have much higher pigments in the fat, and another might have more true vitamin A.    One type of olive might be much higher in carotenes than another (just like I expect that yellow-fleshed apples have more carotenes than white).

I suppose the "colored oil" test only works for vegetable oils because animal vitamin A will not be colored.

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Is the nutrition database distinguishing between

  • yes we tested for x and the test result was zero, and
  • no we didn't test for x and therefore we can't enter a value ?

For example on cronometer v similar foods from different manufacturers can have differing results.  One will have a far more comprehensive nutrient breakdown than the other. 

Unless I'm really confident about the source or the website makes it clear how it records genuine zero results vs no data, I am usually pretty sceptical / cautious regarding zero results.

 

 

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Hubs was asking me why, after I debone chicken, I don't rub the fats into my dry, sore hands.  NOPE!    I definitely have found that chicken fat is inflamatory when my hands are sore.  I used to wonder why! 

I wonder how good a test rubbing a fat or oil into inflamed skin is!    Does it get redder and sorer?  There is info there, if you ask me.

As I typed this, I realized this is why I've stopped putting much of anything on my unhappy skin and lips!   Soap and water and a little shampoo is about it.  :'0    But really.  Even some things that don't have VA, like coconut oil, I hesitate now to use on my skin.  Because I suspect that I see more inflammation.  Maybe it doesn't have VA, but something is up with it.  I'm going to have to ponder this more.  For me, I haven't fully worked out the use of fats/oils during VA detox.  It's complex. 

My ears perked when someone recently said that putting coconut or olive oil on cradle cap helps.  Maybe the oil pulls some of the VA out of the scalp?   Maybe my fears are unfounded, or using non-VA oils topically is a help.  Sometimes things that help can cause more symptoms at first?

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OK, I just read how to use oils on cradle cap and you apply the oil, leave it for a while, then remove it with soap.  Interesting.  So it isn't being used as a moisturizer, but rather to help clear the deck...

Perhaps much like oil pulling in the mouth.

Sorry about the detour my thoughts took, hope it isn't too far afield.

 

That is so interesting @are!  I have never tried MCT oil.

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Quote from lil chick on December 9, 2020, 4:44 am

Salt, tell us how you really feel!  hee hee  (your comment about scientists made me smile)

Yes, I do think that we need to take what is said on nutrition lists and especially on the back of packages of food "with a grain of SALT"!

I also think things vary a LOT.  One chicken might have much higher pigments in the fat, and another might have more true vitamin A.    One type of olive might be much higher in carotenes than another (just like I expect that yellow-fleshed apples have more carotenes than white).

I suppose the "colored oil" test only works for vegetable oils because animal vitamin A will not be colored.

😂

Good point about the animal fats!

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