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Antioxidants and gut health
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Armin on February 14, 2024, 9:19 pm
Attached is a picture of the various compounds and how they affect the microbiome. Polyphenols, antioxidants, carotenoids, vitamin C, zinc, selenium and vitamin e are listed. Polyphenols, antioxidants and carotenoids are poorly absorbed by the GI tract (except carotenoids attached to oil), however, they have positive effects on the microbiome. Avoiding these compounds because a certain doctor listed them as dangerous just may the worst thing we could have done.
Highlights
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Dietary antioxidants play a vital role in maintaining human health.
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The action mechanism of antioxidants is highlighted.
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Food antioxidants regulate the gut microbiota homeostasis.
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Various clinical trials have shown a positive impact of dietary antioxidants on the gut microbiome.
4. Conclusion
Food antioxidants such as carotenoids, polyphenols, vitamin C, vitamin E, zinc, and selenium have been demonstrated to possess an excellent beneficial influence on gut microbiota.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464622004352
Attached is a picture of the various compounds and how they affect the microbiome. Polyphenols, antioxidants, carotenoids, vitamin C, zinc, selenium and vitamin e are listed. Polyphenols, antioxidants and carotenoids are poorly absorbed by the GI tract (except carotenoids attached to oil), however, they have positive effects on the microbiome. Avoiding these compounds because a certain doctor listed them as dangerous just may the worst thing we could have done.
Highlights
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Dietary antioxidants play a vital role in maintaining human health.
- •
The action mechanism of antioxidants is highlighted.
- •
Food antioxidants regulate the gut microbiota homeostasis.
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Various clinical trials have shown a positive impact of dietary antioxidants on the gut microbiome.
4. Conclusion
Food antioxidants such as carotenoids, polyphenols, vitamin C, vitamin E, zinc, and selenium have been demonstrated to possess an excellent beneficial influence on gut microbiota.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464622004352
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Inger on February 15, 2024, 1:19 am
Interesting! I am feeling really good about my breakfast salad I am gobbling down right now, a big bowl of low carotene veggies, olive oil, lentils, canned mackerel, some fermented beans.. etc.. It is just full of the nutrients to feed my gut buddies!
Lentils are very high in polyphenols.. Nuts/seeds, veggies, an apple here and there, legumes... and animal protein.. I can see how a happy gut evolve 🙂 . Happy gut, happy girl 🙂
Interesting! I am feeling really good about my breakfast salad I am gobbling down right now, a big bowl of low carotene veggies, olive oil, lentils, canned mackerel, some fermented beans.. etc.. It is just full of the nutrients to feed my gut buddies!
Lentils are very high in polyphenols.. Nuts/seeds, veggies, an apple here and there, legumes... and animal protein.. I can see how a happy gut evolve 🙂 . Happy gut, happy girl 🙂
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Janelle525 on February 15, 2024, 6:38 am
It's definitely good in theory. I mean antioxidants are pushed on every mainstream website. That is what everyone thinks is good. And generally speaking those who eat a wide range of fruits and veggies ARE healthier than those who just subsist on processed foods. But maybe it isn't the antioxidants that cure someone... maybe it's that processed foods are killing people thus causing an overgrowth of all the bugs we don't want. The bugs are there to clean up toxic messes. So get rid of the junk food and excess of heavy metals and vit A, get your bile acids functioning properly and our body is perfectly capable of synthesizing our own antioxidants when needed. If not then every carnivore would have dropped dead long ago. And obviously the zinc in red meat is beneficial.
It's definitely good in theory. I mean antioxidants are pushed on every mainstream website. That is what everyone thinks is good. And generally speaking those who eat a wide range of fruits and veggies ARE healthier than those who just subsist on processed foods. But maybe it isn't the antioxidants that cure someone... maybe it's that processed foods are killing people thus causing an overgrowth of all the bugs we don't want. The bugs are there to clean up toxic messes. So get rid of the junk food and excess of heavy metals and vit A, get your bile acids functioning properly and our body is perfectly capable of synthesizing our own antioxidants when needed. If not then every carnivore would have dropped dead long ago. And obviously the zinc in red meat is beneficial.
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Armin on February 15, 2024, 7:05 am
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Janelle525 on February 15, 2024, 6:38 am
It's definitely good in theory. I mean antioxidants are pushed on every mainstream website. That is what everyone thinks is good. And generally speaking those who eat a wide range of fruits and veggies ARE healthier than those who just subsist on processed foods. But maybe it isn't the antioxidants that cure someone... maybe it's that processed foods are killing people thus causing an overgrowth of all the bugs we don't want. The bugs are there to clean up toxic messes. So get rid of the junk food and excess of heavy metals and vit A, get your bile acids functioning properly and our body is perfectly capable of synthesizing our own antioxidants when needed. If not then every carnivore would have dropped dead long ago. And obviously the zinc in red meat is beneficial.
I definitely believe one diet can be great for one person while hell for another. Carnivore completely destroyed my microbiome in my opinion/experience. Again, these plant compounds don't really absorb into the circulation. The don't cure everything but they can be integral to gut health for many people. Processed foods most likely don't have very much of these compounds and probably lead to overgrowth of bad actors.
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Janelle525 on February 15, 2024, 6:38 am
It's definitely good in theory. I mean antioxidants are pushed on every mainstream website. That is what everyone thinks is good. And generally speaking those who eat a wide range of fruits and veggies ARE healthier than those who just subsist on processed foods. But maybe it isn't the antioxidants that cure someone... maybe it's that processed foods are killing people thus causing an overgrowth of all the bugs we don't want. The bugs are there to clean up toxic messes. So get rid of the junk food and excess of heavy metals and vit A, get your bile acids functioning properly and our body is perfectly capable of synthesizing our own antioxidants when needed. If not then every carnivore would have dropped dead long ago. And obviously the zinc in red meat is beneficial.
I definitely believe one diet can be great for one person while hell for another. Carnivore completely destroyed my microbiome in my opinion/experience. Again, these plant compounds don't really absorb into the circulation. The don't cure everything but they can be integral to gut health for many people. Processed foods most likely don't have very much of these compounds and probably lead to overgrowth of bad actors.
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Janelle525 on February 15, 2024, 9:05 am
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Armin on February 15, 2024, 7:05 am
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Janelle525 on February 15, 2024, 6:38 am
It's definitely good in theory. I mean antioxidants are pushed on every mainstream website. That is what everyone thinks is good. And generally speaking those who eat a wide range of fruits and veggies ARE healthier than those who just subsist on processed foods. But maybe it isn't the antioxidants that cure someone... maybe it's that processed foods are killing people thus causing an overgrowth of all the bugs we don't want. The bugs are there to clean up toxic messes. So get rid of the junk food and excess of heavy metals and vit A, get your bile acids functioning properly and our body is perfectly capable of synthesizing our own antioxidants when needed. If not then every carnivore would have dropped dead long ago. And obviously the zinc in red meat is beneficial.
I definitely believe one diet can be great for one person while hell for another. Carnivore completely destroyed my microbiome in my opinion/experience. Again, these plant compounds don't really absorb into the circulation. The don't cure everything but they can be integral to gut health for many people. Processed foods most likely don't have very much of these compounds and probably lead to overgrowth of bad actors.
Making sure not to eat much fat with them would be key in not absorbing, but still we don't know how much each individual can absorb.
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Armin on February 15, 2024, 7:05 am
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Janelle525 on February 15, 2024, 6:38 am
It's definitely good in theory. I mean antioxidants are pushed on every mainstream website. That is what everyone thinks is good. And generally speaking those who eat a wide range of fruits and veggies ARE healthier than those who just subsist on processed foods. But maybe it isn't the antioxidants that cure someone... maybe it's that processed foods are killing people thus causing an overgrowth of all the bugs we don't want. The bugs are there to clean up toxic messes. So get rid of the junk food and excess of heavy metals and vit A, get your bile acids functioning properly and our body is perfectly capable of synthesizing our own antioxidants when needed. If not then every carnivore would have dropped dead long ago. And obviously the zinc in red meat is beneficial.
I definitely believe one diet can be great for one person while hell for another. Carnivore completely destroyed my microbiome in my opinion/experience. Again, these plant compounds don't really absorb into the circulation. The don't cure everything but they can be integral to gut health for many people. Processed foods most likely don't have very much of these compounds and probably lead to overgrowth of bad actors.
Making sure not to eat much fat with them would be key in not absorbing, but still we don't know how much each individual can absorb.
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Alex on February 20, 2024, 2:37 pm
Yeah grains and red meat without any veg or fruit (antioxidants) is basically the rot your gut diet, I know because thats what happened to me when I first tried low Vit A. Antioxidants from foods are clearly beneficial for health.
Yeah grains and red meat without any veg or fruit (antioxidants) is basically the rot your gut diet, I know because thats what happened to me when I first tried low Vit A. Antioxidants from foods are clearly beneficial for health.
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puddleduck on February 22, 2024, 5:45 am
Following this post, I will link to a YouTube video from a researcher whose work supports one day finding a cure for Primary Hyperoxaluria through probiotic development, which would of course help those sensitive to oxalate due to antibiotic use as well.
In the video, he calls 200 mg of oxalate daily a “high oxalate diet,” which for me is about as low as I can manage lol...but for an individual with Hyperoxaluria, 40 mg oxalate is the most they‘d want to ingest in one day.
For the average person, though, if oxalate-degrading bacteria rely on oxalate for food, what happens to those microbes when he or she goes carnivore? 🤨
@alexm sounds like your perspective on this has evolved. How do you currently explain your severe reaction to eating loads of high-carotenoid cooked veggies back in the day?
Following this post, I will link to a YouTube video from a researcher whose work supports one day finding a cure for Primary Hyperoxaluria through probiotic development, which would of course help those sensitive to oxalate due to antibiotic use as well.
In the video, he calls 200 mg of oxalate daily a “high oxalate diet,” which for me is about as low as I can manage lol...but for an individual with Hyperoxaluria, 40 mg oxalate is the most they‘d want to ingest in one day.
For the average person, though, if oxalate-degrading bacteria rely on oxalate for food, what happens to those microbes when he or she goes carnivore? 🤨
@alexm sounds like your perspective on this has evolved. How do you currently explain your severe reaction to eating loads of high-carotenoid cooked veggies back in the day?
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Alex on February 22, 2024, 2:01 pm
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puddleduck on February 22, 2024, 5:45 am
@alexm sounds like your perspective on this has evolved. How do you currently explain your severe reaction to eating loads of high-carotenoid cooked veggies back in the day?
@puddleduck Nope my perspective still the same I reacted to things like carrot because I was vitamin A toxic, my liver and gallbladder was a mess, that doesn't mean I'm against antioxidants though. I think carotenoid fruit and veg (excluding carrot & sweet potatoes) foods are healthy if your liver and thyroid are working ok and if your ALDH ADH enzymes are not inhibited, if they are inhibited though then you will always have issues with Vitamin A foods.
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puddleduck on February 22, 2024, 5:45 am
@alexm sounds like your perspective on this has evolved. How do you currently explain your severe reaction to eating loads of high-carotenoid cooked veggies back in the day?
@puddleduck Nope my perspective still the same I reacted to things like carrot because I was vitamin A toxic, my liver and gallbladder was a mess, that doesn't mean I'm against antioxidants though. I think carotenoid fruit and veg (excluding carrot & sweet potatoes) foods are healthy if your liver and thyroid are working ok and if your ALDH ADH enzymes are not inhibited, if they are inhibited though then you will always have issues with Vitamin A foods.
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