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Quote from wavygravygadzooks on October 17, 2023, 10:42 am@el
As @tommy pointed out, that CNN article you linked to is not a study and does not report on a study. Not only is it not a study, but it also contains information that is clearly contradictory and flat out wrong, to the point of being blatantly stupid and anti-scientific. That article does not constitute evidence that bananas do or do not give monkeys (or humans) diabetes.
As @tommy pointed out, that CNN article you linked to is not a study and does not report on a study. Not only is it not a study, but it also contains information that is clearly contradictory and flat out wrong, to the point of being blatantly stupid and anti-scientific. That article does not constitute evidence that bananas do or do not give monkeys (or humans) diabetes.
Quote from sand on October 17, 2023, 11:29 amBut that bananas give you AIDS, that we can’t argue over! CNN did a study on this way back!
But that bananas give you AIDS, that we can’t argue over! CNN did a study on this way back!
Quote from Arios on October 18, 2023, 3:52 pmIf the bananas are treated with calcium carbide then yes they can definitely induce a diabetes.
If the bananas are treated with calcium carbide then yes they can definitely induce a diabetes.
Quote from Tommy on October 28, 2023, 4:37 amFunnily enough, since El made this interesting post I’ve been reading lately that zoos opt to feed their apes vegetables rather than fruit as the fruit causes the animals to become fat and diabetic. I haven’t got any reliable sources though- my apologies.
This doesn’t make sense to me at all as apes eat a tonne of fruit in the wild and don’t get fat nor do they become diabetic.
Now I can already see some of you jumping in here yelling that the apes in the wild get a lot more exercise or that the fruits in the wild aren’t as sweet- sorry I’m just not buying it. I’m not denying that these could be important factors but I struggle to believe these are the driving forces.
My suspicion is that the zoo provided ‘monkey chow’ that I imagine would serve as the basis of the ape’s diet would create a susceptibility for the apes to develop NAFLD and the sugar contained in any fruits that they gorge on would then serve as fuel to drive insulin resistance.
Yes this is a half baked post but would love to know all your thoughts.
This may be far fetched but if these reports are true, finding out why these fruits drive diabetes in these animals may serve to help finding out what may be the underlying cause of insulin resistance in our society.
Funnily enough, since El made this interesting post I’ve been reading lately that zoos opt to feed their apes vegetables rather than fruit as the fruit causes the animals to become fat and diabetic. I haven’t got any reliable sources though- my apologies.
This doesn’t make sense to me at all as apes eat a tonne of fruit in the wild and don’t get fat nor do they become diabetic.
Now I can already see some of you jumping in here yelling that the apes in the wild get a lot more exercise or that the fruits in the wild aren’t as sweet- sorry I’m just not buying it. I’m not denying that these could be important factors but I struggle to believe these are the driving forces.
My suspicion is that the zoo provided ‘monkey chow’ that I imagine would serve as the basis of the ape’s diet would create a susceptibility for the apes to develop NAFLD and the sugar contained in any fruits that they gorge on would then serve as fuel to drive insulin resistance.
Yes this is a half baked post but would love to know all your thoughts.
This may be far fetched but if these reports are true, finding out why these fruits drive diabetes in these animals may serve to help finding out what may be the underlying cause of insulin resistance in our society.
Quote from El on October 29, 2023, 12:21 amCuriosamente, desde que El hizo esta interesante publicación, he estado leyendo últimamente que los zoológicos optan por alimentar a sus simios con vegetales en lugar de frutas, ya que la fruta hace que los animales engorden y se vuelvan diabéticos. Sin embargo, no tengo fuentes confiables, mis disculpas.
Esto no tiene ningún sentido para mí, ya que los simios comen una tonelada de fruta en la naturaleza y no engordan ni se vuelven diabéticos.
Now I can already see some of you jumping in here yelling that the apes in the wild get a lot more exercise or that the fruits in the wild aren’t as sweet- sorry I’m just not buying it. I’m not denying that these could be important factors but I struggle to believe these are the driving forces.
My suspicion is that the zoo provided ‘monkey chow’ that I imagine would serve as the basis of the ape’s diet would create a susceptibility for the apes to develop NAFLD and the sugar contained in any fruits that they gorge on would then serve as fuel to drive insulin resistance.
Yes this is a half baked post but would love to know all your thoughts.
This may be far fetched but if these reports are true, finding out why these fruits drive diabetes in these animals may serve to help finding out what may be the underlying cause of insulin resistance in our society.
Steve Jobs only ate fruit and died of pancreatic cancer. It is not true that monkeys eat a lot of fruit. They eat many insects in nature. and the fruit they eat is areas of fruit that are in a state of decomposition, to eat the worms that are in it and throw the rest away, few people know that.
Curiosamente, desde que El hizo esta interesante publicación, he estado leyendo últimamente que los zoológicos optan por alimentar a sus simios con vegetales en lugar de frutas, ya que la fruta hace que los animales engorden y se vuelvan diabéticos. Sin embargo, no tengo fuentes confiables, mis disculpas.
Esto no tiene ningún sentido para mí, ya que los simios comen una tonelada de fruta en la naturaleza y no engordan ni se vuelven diabéticos.
Now I can already see some of you jumping in here yelling that the apes in the wild get a lot more exercise or that the fruits in the wild aren’t as sweet- sorry I’m just not buying it. I’m not denying that these could be important factors but I struggle to believe these are the driving forces.
My suspicion is that the zoo provided ‘monkey chow’ that I imagine would serve as the basis of the ape’s diet would create a susceptibility for the apes to develop NAFLD and the sugar contained in any fruits that they gorge on would then serve as fuel to drive insulin resistance.
Yes this is a half baked post but would love to know all your thoughts.
This may be far fetched but if these reports are true, finding out why these fruits drive diabetes in these animals may serve to help finding out what may be the underlying cause of insulin resistance in our society.
Steve Jobs only ate fruit and died of pancreatic cancer. It is not true that monkeys eat a lot of fruit. They eat many insects in nature. and the fruit they eat is areas of fruit that are in a state of decomposition, to eat the worms that are in it and throw the rest away, few people know that.
Quote from El on October 29, 2023, 12:26 amand in the jungle, a large amount of fruits such as raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, almost no bananas or apples. Nature provides them with fruits with a low glycemic index and a large amount of vitamin C. nature is wise.
and in the jungle, a large amount of fruits such as raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, almost no bananas or apples. Nature provides them with fruits with a low glycemic index and a large amount of vitamin C. nature is wise.
Quote from El on October 29, 2023, 12:34 amThis shows that Grant is right, the cause of diabetes is vitamin A, with these data of eating only fruits it is already confirmed.
This shows that Grant is right, the cause of diabetes is vitamin A, with these data of eating only fruits it is already confirmed.
Quote from Tommy on October 29, 2023, 1:56 amI strongly disagree El.
It is reported that figs (which are known to be a very sugary fruit by the way) accounts for half of a wild chimpanzee’s diet.
Also you have to let go of the idea that bananas are rich in vitamin a - they aren’t. Even if they were, they have virtually no fat to allow for sufficient carotenoid absorption to significantly alter vitamin A levels.
I strongly disagree El.
It is reported that figs (which are known to be a very sugary fruit by the way) accounts for half of a wild chimpanzee’s diet.
Also you have to let go of the idea that bananas are rich in vitamin a - they aren’t. Even if they were, they have virtually no fat to allow for sufficient carotenoid absorption to significantly alter vitamin A levels.
Quote from El on October 29, 2023, 2:19 amQuote from Tommy on October 29, 2023, 1:56 amI strongly disagree El.
It is reported that figs (which are known to be a very sugary fruit by the way) accounts for half of a wild chimpanzee’s diet.
Also you have to let go of the idea that bananas are rich in vitamin a - they aren’t. Even if they were, they have virtually no fat to allow for sufficient carotenoid absorption to significantly alter vitamin A levels.
Quote from Tommy on October 29, 2023, 1:56 amI strongly disagree El.
It is reported that figs (which are known to be a very sugary fruit by the way) accounts for half of a wild chimpanzee’s diet.
Also you have to let go of the idea that bananas are rich in vitamin a - they aren’t. Even if they were, they have virtually no fat to allow for sufficient carotenoid absorption to significantly alter vitamin A levels.