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Beef, Vitamin C, and Iron Overload Caution

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I've started making bread at home with organic flour because there is so much iron in wheat products.   I suppose it also decreases your load of roundup.

A person with no time might like a bread machine.

Quote from romaine on December 27, 2019, 8:26 pm

"One egg contains about 1000iu of vitamin A.  Could we say that nature seems to think it’s necessarily for life?   Just thinking out loud. I don’t know what to believe anymore. "

Nature doesn't want us to live forever. What babies need for explosive growth might lead to tumors for adults. I posted about that here:

https://www.carbwarscookbooks.com/eureka-part-3/  To Everything There is a Season…

From your article Judy:  "Are egg yolks, cheese, butter, milk, and liver good for us? Yes, they are. Until they are not."

so sad.   🙂

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Quote from romaine on December 27, 2019, 8:26 pm

"One egg contains about 1000iu of vitamin A.  Could we say that nature seems to think it’s necessarily for life?   Just thinking out loud. I don’t know what to believe anymore. "

Nature doesn't want us to live forever. What babies need for explosive growth might lead to tumors for adults. I posted about that here:

https://www.carbwarscookbooks.com/eureka-part-3/  To Everything There is a Season…

Wow, nice work!!! I've been hoping to find a comprehensive summary to point others to. So glad you shared the link to your site. I really like how you bring the Ron Rosedale part into it too. I'm reading Eureka part 1 and have a couple of comments. In the second paragraph of My Story you write, "25,000 mgs". I read that as 'milligrams', so I'm guessing you really meant to say 25,000 IU's? The RBP's-as-antibodies part is confusing. The spelling is 'retinol' not 'retinal', and Retinol Binding Protein is the wrapper for retinol, not retinoic acid. I'm thinking that the idea conveys either way, but that some folks that you might want to influence with your excellent style of writing would trip on that portion. 

Great to read that you're 80% there, especially after all the suffering you've been through.

I only recently ran across the Ron Rosedale videos (Low Carb Down Under channel) and I'm pondering about how his thinking intersects VA-detox, even if he's not aware of it per se, and the other benefits that we in this community might want to consider for long-term health. Did you up your protein-intake as a part of VA-detox? Which fats are you incorporating at this point? Thanks! 

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Quote from romaine on December 27, 2019, 8:26 pm

Wow, nice work!!! I've been hoping to find a comprehensive summary to point others to. So glad you shared the link to your site. I really like how you bring the Ron Rosedale part into it too. I'm reading Eureka part 1 and have a couple of comments. In the second paragraph of My Story you write, "25,000 mgs". I read that as 'milligrams', so I'm guessing you really meant to say 25,000 IU's? The RBP's-as-antibodies part is confusing. The spelling is 'retinol' not 'retinal', and Retinol Binding Protein is the wrapper for retinol, not retinoic acid. I'm thinking that the idea conveys either way, but that some folks that you might want to influence with your excellent style of writing would trip on that portion. 

Great to read that you're 80% there, especially after all the suffering you've been through.

I only recently ran across the Ron Rosedale videos (Low Carb Down Under channel) and I'm pondering about how his thinking intersects VA-detox, even if he's not aware of it per se, and the other benefits that we in this community might want to consider for long-term health. Did you up your protein-intake as a part of VA-detox? Which fats are you incorporating at this point? Thanks! 

You are right, it should be IUs. Thanks for the corrections--you have a promising career as a proof reader! I can't make the changes at the moment because my blog is down. BTW, Thorne, the company my doctor specified for the VA supplement, has discontinued the 25,000 vitamin A. Perhaps some of our stories have had an effect.

I did not change my protein intake but I was already getting an adequate amount. I also continued with the fats I was eating except for cutting way down on dairy fats. I'm still having 8-chain mct oil every morning, but I've eliminated the coffee and replaced it with white tea (one cup per day.) We use olive oil (non-refined but organic) or avocado oil for cooking. I quit using poly unsaturated vegetable oils years ago. I'm still avoiding sugar, wheat, and gluten, although I am eating black beans (my recipe that eliminates the toxins) and rarely, some rice (also my recipe). My set point for weight has gone down another 2 pounds--my husband is trying to feed me candy! He got really spooked when I had (un-diagnosed) adrenal failure 2 years ago and went down to 97 pounds.

Dr. Rosedale obviously doesn't know about the dangers of VA, but then very few people do. He recommends tons of omega-3 foods to deal with inflammation, but that does nothing about the cause of inflammation.

Thanks again!

Judy BB

 

Quote from ggenereux on December 30, 2019, 7:56 pm
Quote from Sarah4 on December 30, 2019, 2:40 pm

Hi Grant, can I ask about your current diet? 

Hi @sarah4,

My diet has shifted a bit over the last five years. When I first started I was needing two cups (dry measure) of rice per day, and ~ 12 oz. of beef/bison. I’ve also dropped a few items from my early diet (such as the red kidney beans, pineapple) and have experimented with other items (bread)  too. So, it has not been super consistent.

But, around the 4 yr point, something changed, and I noticed that I was just needing less food per day. I don’t know if this is because my body is more efficient, or because I’ve gotten older. However, my weight has remained the same for about the last 4 yrs; it fluctuates +-3 lbs.

The primary goal of my current diet is to try to achieve a 0.0 vA serum test this July. So, that’s my big motivation in sticking to this bland and boring routine. In other words, I don’t want to at all recommend that other people need to follow this same diet.

As for my daily standard diet, it’s:

  • 1 cup black beans - usually half that at lunch, and the other half in the evening.
  • 1 cup (measured dry) white or brown rice. A lot of days I’ll have a bit of rice leftover. So, realistically, I’m probably closer to 0.8 - 0.9 cups/day. I have brown rice about 3 days per week.
  • 6-8 oz beef or bison. It’s a mix of ground, steak, and roasts. When I cook a roast, it is in a slow cooker with only water.
  • If I cook ground it's always in a pre-made 6 oz. patty and I cook that in olive oil. If I cook a patty, I usually have half in the morning and the other half at lunch. Same for steak days.
  • 1 cup of black coffee. Although I’ve mostly lost my appetite for coffee, I usually still have it in the morning to help get the bile flowing. 
  • 1-2 oz. of macadamia nuts, sometimes it's almonds, occasionally sunflower seeds
  • I usually have a pinch of salt in my rice at lunch and evenings

About 3-4  times per week I’ll have a peeled apple.

I have a standard routine for taking my lunch to work; I dry mix the rice + beans+ beef in a glass container, and then I add hot water at lunchtime to make it into a kind of quick soup. I never add spices other than salt.

I think this diet puts me at about 2200 calories/day. My daily physical exercise is mostly limited to my bike commute of 15KM/day. I’ve also noticed that my bike commute has gotten a bit easier over the last few years.

Thanks

Grant

 

 

Hi Grant,

 

Wondering if your still eating the organic black beans in a can from Costco?  Still unsure if there’s anything toxic I should worry about from the can.

 

Thanks

HI @john,

Yes I do still eat the black beans, and I still don't appear to have any adverse reaction to them.

The brand name is Sprague Organic Black Beans.

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Quote from ggenereux on March 7, 2020, 5:12 pm

HI @john,

Yes I do still eat the black beans, and I still don't appear to have any adverse reaction to them.

The brand name is Sprague Organic Black Beans.

Thank you. 

Cita de tim el 19 de diciembre de 2019 a las 22:27

Vitamin C increases iron and oxalate absorption and increases endogenous oxalate production. I don't think supplementing with C is a good idea but if one does they should always take it well away from meals.

Your ferritin is really high, I'm not surprised you are sensitive to EMFs.

I think you said your D levels are low despite supplementation? Iron lowers D.

Discovering iron overload and getting phlebotomies could be a turning point for your health. There is little point in trying to avoid dietary iron (aside from iron fortified foods and maybe switch to a mix of red and white meat), you will lose close to nothing sweating. You will probably need many phlebotomies to get your ferritin down to normal.

don't agree, my ferritin was at 500. I ate a diet rich in red meat, cheese and eggs. My ferritin dropped to 100 in a month, introducing rex liver into my diet, I continued eating cheese, eggs and red meat, you don't have to donate blood to mobilize iron, you need a lot of copper and retinol. The bad thing is that the liver is toxic. Dark chocolate also lowers my ferritin levels. Therefore it is copper that lowers my ferritin levels. copper is very very important
My liver enzymes have improved greatly by introducing dark chocolate, which is rich in copper and saturated fat. It is not magnesium or potassium. because bananas raise my liver enzymes. It's not the saturated fat because eating liver also lowered my liver enzymes. The problem is iron due to copper deficiency.
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