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Andrew B on November 5, 2022, 3:27 am
Betaine: a comprehensive review. Betaine is very helpful for restoring hepatic function. Also very helpful where alcohol was a factor. Grains are a good source unless you were avoiding them for gluten tolerance issues like I was. Quinoa, kamut flour, spelt flour, wheat and rye flour are excellent sources. White beets possibly although quite high in oxalic acid, I suspect. There is a small amount of betaine in beef. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8224793/
Betaine, by virtue of promoting an alternate remethylation pathway, restores SAM:SAH ratios that, in turn, correct the defective cellular methylation reaction catalyzed by PEMT resulting in protection against the generation of alcoholic steatosis. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17156888/
Betaine: a comprehensive review. Betaine is very helpful for restoring hepatic function. Also very helpful where alcohol was a factor. Grains are a good source unless you were avoiding them for gluten tolerance issues like I was. Quinoa, kamut flour, spelt flour, wheat and rye flour are excellent sources. White beets possibly although quite high in oxalic acid, I suspect. There is a small amount of betaine in beef. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8224793/
Betaine, by virtue of promoting an alternate remethylation pathway, restores SAM:SAH ratios that, in turn, correct the defective cellular methylation reaction catalyzed by PEMT resulting in protection against the generation of alcoholic steatosis. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17156888/
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Orion on November 5, 2022, 7:08 am
Hi @andrew-b Betaine HCl would be helpful?
Hi @andrew-b Betaine HCl would be helpful?
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Andrew B on November 5, 2022, 7:18 am
Yes @orion, I believe betaine HCL is helpful. The important thing being to get enough choline with it.
One of the studies showing choline and betaine together help. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-00773-w
Yes @orion, I believe betaine HCL is helpful. The important thing being to get enough choline with it.
One of the studies showing choline and betaine together help. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-00773-w
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Andrew B on November 13, 2022, 3:44 am
I've found beetroot and fermented beetroot juice helpful as well. A seasonal amount. Quinoa in small amounts each meal. Also feel very good eating sourdough brown bread but could be a number of reasons for that including the fibre (some beta glucans). The betaine seems to help dryness in the system so might help somebody starting out more to notice benefits.
I've found beetroot and fermented beetroot juice helpful as well. A seasonal amount. Quinoa in small amounts each meal. Also feel very good eating sourdough brown bread but could be a number of reasons for that including the fibre (some beta glucans). The betaine seems to help dryness in the system so might help somebody starting out more to notice benefits.
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Ourania on November 13, 2022, 5:55 am
Betaine Citrate was one of the three or four supplements that kept me going 50 years ago. I stopped when the formulation changed to remove sugar and replace it with aspartame.
I just checked, now the aspartame is replaced with mannitol.
Betaine Citrate was one of the three or four supplements that kept me going 50 years ago. I stopped when the formulation changed to remove sugar and replace it with aspartame.
I just checked, now the aspartame is replaced with mannitol.
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Andrew B on November 21, 2022, 3:50 am
Betaine helps dry mouth. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12761586/
Betaine with olive oil and xylitol for dry mouth as a result of polypharmacy. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2842.2006.01718.x
Betaine helps dry mouth. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12761586/
Betaine with olive oil and xylitol for dry mouth as a result of polypharmacy. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2842.2006.01718.x
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Andrew B on November 22, 2022, 7:35 am
Betaine foods. Per 100 grams. There is some variation of amounts for beetroot, spinach and wheat. Generally, any product made with wheat will have some betaine. It does appear that cooking increases betaine in some foods. A good target would be at least 100 mgs per day. Those eating beef could be getting 20 mgs per 100 grams.
- Quinoa, uncooked. 630 mgs.
- Wheat bran. 360 mgs.
- Beets, canned, drained solids. 256 mgs.
- Rye grain. 146 mgs.
- Beetroot, raw. 129 mgs.
- Whole wheat bread 127 mgs.
- Kamut uncooked. 113 mgs.
- Amaranth grain, uncooked. 68 mgs.
- Barley flour. 66 mgs.
- Caribou shoulder meat dried. 43 mgs.
- Sunflower seeds. 35 mgs.
- Veal ground cooked pan-fried. 34 mgs.
Excluded due to high Vitamin A and lutein
- Lambsquarters. 332 mgs (Vit A 1951 IUs, lutein 3616 mcgs)
- Spinach. 103 mgs (Vit A 9377 IUs, lutein 12,198 mcgs)
Betaine foods. Per 100 grams. There is some variation of amounts for beetroot, spinach and wheat. Generally, any product made with wheat will have some betaine. It does appear that cooking increases betaine in some foods. A good target would be at least 100 mgs per day. Those eating beef could be getting 20 mgs per 100 grams.
- Quinoa, uncooked. 630 mgs.
- Wheat bran. 360 mgs.
- Beets, canned, drained solids. 256 mgs.
- Rye grain. 146 mgs.
- Beetroot, raw. 129 mgs.
- Whole wheat bread 127 mgs.
- Kamut uncooked. 113 mgs.
- Amaranth grain, uncooked. 68 mgs.
- Barley flour. 66 mgs.
- Caribou shoulder meat dried. 43 mgs.
- Sunflower seeds. 35 mgs.
- Veal ground cooked pan-fried. 34 mgs.
Excluded due to high Vitamin A and lutein
- Lambsquarters. 332 mgs (Vit A 1951 IUs, lutein 3616 mcgs)
- Spinach. 103 mgs (Vit A 9377 IUs, lutein 12,198 mcgs)
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Hermes on December 10, 2022, 1:27 pm
@andrew-b
So, a week ago I prepared a batch of beet roots to ferment them. I followed a pretty straightforward recipe: scrapping the beet roots, cut them up into little cubicles, put them into a glass container, added enough water that the beet roots were covered in it, added a little bit of salt, covered the lid with cheese cloth, and I waited a week. The juice got a sour taste. Now, my question is: do you eat the beet roots as well (they're not cooked), and how much of the juice do you drink per meal?
@andrew-b
So, a week ago I prepared a batch of beet roots to ferment them. I followed a pretty straightforward recipe: scrapping the beet roots, cut them up into little cubicles, put them into a glass container, added enough water that the beet roots were covered in it, added a little bit of salt, covered the lid with cheese cloth, and I waited a week. The juice got a sour taste. Now, my question is: do you eat the beet roots as well (they're not cooked), and how much of the juice do you drink per meal?
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Hermes on December 10, 2022, 1:32 pm
And how do you cook the quinoa? Do you boil it in water? I'm thinking about making a salad with some lemon juice, olive oil, salt, dried grapes for additional flavor, maybe some cucumber might be nice. You know, to make the meal a little less bland and spice up my dietary choices. Usually it is a piece of meat and some simple carbs. Pretty boring like Grant's prisoner food.
And how do you cook the quinoa? Do you boil it in water? I'm thinking about making a salad with some lemon juice, olive oil, salt, dried grapes for additional flavor, maybe some cucumber might be nice. You know, to make the meal a little less bland and spice up my dietary choices. Usually it is a piece of meat and some simple carbs. Pretty boring like Grant's prisoner food.
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Andrew B on December 10, 2022, 2:31 pm
Hi @christian the beetroot tends to lose it's flavour so I dont tend to eat it. Once or twice I do blend the beetroot and put it in a beetroot chocolate cake but it's not quite as tasty as when made with freshly cooked beetroot. I use about 25 mls of the juice in a smoothie.
Yes, I boil the quinoa in water for 20 minutes. I use iceberg lettuce on the side with a lot of my meals for the nitrates. Nice crunchy contrast to the chicken or beef.
Hi @christian the beetroot tends to lose it's flavour so I dont tend to eat it. Once or twice I do blend the beetroot and put it in a beetroot chocolate cake but it's not quite as tasty as when made with freshly cooked beetroot. I use about 25 mls of the juice in a smoothie.
Yes, I boil the quinoa in water for 20 minutes. I use iceberg lettuce on the side with a lot of my meals for the nitrates. Nice crunchy contrast to the chicken or beef.
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