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Blog post about VitA 'diet' failure
I'm far from having all the answers here. But from working with my two elderly cats, myself, my husband and looking at other family members and reading all of what I read here, this is my opinion.
I think the hard part of all of this, if you believe the central idea (that VA is poison) the hard part is that we are thinking of ourselves as sick but what we are is poisoned. It's a whole different ballgame.
It's sort of like all of us realized that our wells had mercury in them. Even if you move away from the well you might have longstanding issues.
It isn't like a gluten-free diet, in which you are talking about an allergy.
What's worse, because we weren't able to get rid of the poison fast enough, our bodies have stored it away. And it's gonna poison you *again* as it leaves.
So every damn symptom we have we are sort of stuck with unless someone comes up with ways to help it out more safely. And it could be that we are prone to NOT doing the right helpful things, or we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place (like maybe we chronically need more protein or more B vities or ?).
Now, if the *original idea is wrong*, then that is something else. Is Grant's success because of something else he took out of his diet? Did is gut heal when he went off gluten, for instance?
But for me, the fact that I'm not up at night vomiting any more, (which I used to say really seemed like POISONING symptoms) that makes me think the idea that VA-is-poison is right. At least for me.
ps: I've never been anything but LOWISH VA, I'm not strict. I don't really see this as a diet, but more like an awakening to the fact that we don't need VA. At all. 🙂 To me, the idea is freeing.
The key thing IMO is to force(teach) [lazy] and probably confused immune system to stop using A as a first aid in every situation. There could be something as pathetic as continuous throwing of A vs chronic gut candida(already resistant to A) with gradually accumulating collateral damage(due to A general toxicity) -> leaky gut -> bacteria translocation -> auto immune reactions, etc.
I'am still wondering though which path is better: total temp. withdrawal from A or reloading it(and copper) with something like beef liver every 2..3 weeks...
Quote from rockarolla on March 30, 2021, 3:03 pmThe key thing IMO is to force(teach) [lazy] and probably confused immune system to stop using A as a first aid in every situation. There could be something as pathetic as continuous throwing of A vs chronic gut candida(already resistant to A) with gradually accumulating collateral damage(due to A general toxicity) -> leaky gut -> bacteria translocation -> auto immune reactions, etc.
I'am still wondering though which path is better: total temp. withdrawal from A or reloading it(and copper) with something like beef liver every 2..3 weeks...
hmmm @rockarolla, so you are saying the body USES VA ? Now, see, this is an idea that I had when I arrived here but someone talked me out of it. It's so basic to this discussion that I think we might want to hash more about this. Does VA have uses? I think many here think: not much, not much at all. Maybe in the retina itself? But beyond that it is just a thorn in our sides!
Now plants use them for photosynthesis, and as far as I know we don't do that, LOL.
When I actually do come down with some sort of infection involving, say, a fever, my rosacea goes away. It seemed to me that the body was moving VA around.
And @tim-2 has posted about the body mobilizing VA during flu.
I would wonder if sometimes vaccine injury is about VA being mobilized.
edited to add: high-VA topicals work against germs such as marigold-based ointments and cod liver based A & D ointment
There is no doubt that excess vitamin A is toxic, but before Grant, no one seemed to care about it in wellness world.
For me it is important to know if retinol is a vitamin because it changes the understanding of things.
For the rest, small quantities are processed by our body, is a normal function, is hormesis characteristic, such as free radicals and other toxins.
Many people, alone, are not able to proceed for a long time on a zero vitamin A diet. They do not understand the other possible deficiencies, they do not know how to help themselves with laboratory tests and with supplements but above all they do not know how to wait for the very long detox cycles.
I ended 2 years on almost zero vitamin A diet, but by 6 months I switched to a low vitamin A diet, just because it is difficult to get all nutrients while remaining at zero vitamin A diet.
I also believe that staying forever with zero vitamin A diet even small quantities from food are difficult to eliminate and make us feel bad, while small quantities regulate the body to know how to eliminate toxins.
In summary, 2 years at almost zero vitamin A, 6 months at low vitamin A, total 2 and a half years. I've had a hard time but I believed in the accuracy of Grant's theory, and now I'm doing great.