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Calcium and Vitamin K?
Quote from Guest on January 8, 2019, 8:52 pm
Yeah, I hear you, I think dried egg shells are hard to absorb, I've heard this stuff is pretty good:
https://www.traditionalfoods.org/free-range-pasture-fed-whole-bone-calcium.html
Yeah, I've done htma, pretty consistently have low calcium...but don't think supplements (calcium not k2) are good for you. That link is a whole food calcium supplement...so a little different.
Yeah, I hear you, I think dried egg shells are hard to absorb, I've heard this stuff is pretty good:
https://www.traditionalfoods.org/free-range-pasture-fed-whole-bone-calcium.html
Yeah, I've done htma, pretty consistently have low calcium...but don't think supplements (calcium not k2) are good for you. That link is a whole food calcium supplement...so a little different.
Quote from Guest on January 8, 2019, 10:05 pm
Quote from Guest on January 8, 2019, 8:04 pm
Still curious if anyone has tracked their calcium intake? I track mine as I am a year now on a dairy free diet, calcium and vitamin k are hard to achieve, with the diet I'm currently doing. Can someone put their diet into https://cronometer.com/ --it's free and easy to use--and show us their vitamin k and calcium intake?? Mine is around 600 mg per day which is on the low end. Would just be curious to see the numbers on all their stuff in cronometer with a low vitamin a diet. Thanks.
It's not that bad. People in Asian countries get 300-400 mg. In Countries like Spain, France, and Norway, people typically get 600-800 mg a day. Minerals like Magnesium and selenium are far more important, and grains are a good source of both. For Vitamin K, most animal products have trace amounts, as do cereal grains. Additionally, Vitamin K is a convenient by product of bacteria of digesting starch in the lower intestinal tract.
-yh
Quote from Guest on January 8, 2019, 8:04 pm
Still curious if anyone has tracked their calcium intake? I track mine as I am a year now on a dairy free diet, calcium and vitamin k are hard to achieve, with the diet I'm currently doing. Can someone put their diet into https://cronometer.com/ --it's free and easy to use--and show us their vitamin k and calcium intake?? Mine is around 600 mg per day which is on the low end. Would just be curious to see the numbers on all their stuff in cronometer with a low vitamin a diet. Thanks.
It's not that bad. People in Asian countries get 300-400 mg. In Countries like Spain, France, and Norway, people typically get 600-800 mg a day. Minerals like Magnesium and selenium are far more important, and grains are a good source of both. For Vitamin K, most animal products have trace amounts, as do cereal grains. Additionally, Vitamin K is a convenient by product of bacteria of digesting starch in the lower intestinal tract.
-yh
I don't think it's usefull to track nutrients in cronometer. I also think that sole idea that there should be a general RDA for nutrients is a ridiculous idea. To me it's obvious that it's done for making profit on gullibility of people and their health problems.
And then people started getting obsessed with tracking nutrients and making their health issues even worse. Initially (only) symptoms are managed after taking any kind of drug or a supplement but then situation as a rule always gets worse and much more complicated to solve. And instead of stopping with that circle of adding new things and supplements people usually try even harder as time passes as with any other drud addict. And I think that when it comes to health and eating there is one rule or law that apply to them (and to other things too) and that is the law of reversed effort. The harder we try the worse we do the thing. And the more nutrients(especially isolated nutrients that will make huge imbalances and increase requirements for other ones) we ingest the harder it is for the body to sort things out and actually use them effectively.
I don't think it's usefull to track nutrients in cronometer. I also think that sole idea that there should be a general RDA for nutrients is a ridiculous idea. To me it's obvious that it's done for making profit on gullibility of people and their health problems.
And then people started getting obsessed with tracking nutrients and making their health issues even worse. Initially (only) symptoms are managed after taking any kind of drug or a supplement but then situation as a rule always gets worse and much more complicated to solve. And instead of stopping with that circle of adding new things and supplements people usually try even harder as time passes as with any other drud addict. And I think that when it comes to health and eating there is one rule or law that apply to them (and to other things too) and that is the law of reversed effort. The harder we try the worse we do the thing. And the more nutrients(especially isolated nutrients that will make huge imbalances and increase requirements for other ones) we ingest the harder it is for the body to sort things out and actually use them effectively.
Quote from Guest on January 9, 2019, 3:55 am
Well, thanks to cronometer I know that I eat around 250 mg of calcium (25% RDA), around 80 ug of folate (15% RDA), 50% RDA magnesium and 30% RDA of vit K per day, I'm not eating beans now (my belly expand like balloon after them...). So I think it is useful in some ways, like now I ordered dried celeriac and parsley root and will be adding them to my diet. Then will check how this change my ratios and add some more vegetables or remove something else (like getting now over 1250 mg of phosphorus, maybe it's too much with so little calcium? no idea now).
Well, thanks to cronometer I know that I eat around 250 mg of calcium (25% RDA), around 80 ug of folate (15% RDA), 50% RDA magnesium and 30% RDA of vit K per day, I'm not eating beans now (my belly expand like balloon after them...). So I think it is useful in some ways, like now I ordered dried celeriac and parsley root and will be adding them to my diet. Then will check how this change my ratios and add some more vegetables or remove something else (like getting now over 1250 mg of phosphorus, maybe it's too much with so little calcium? no idea now).
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Matrixik on January 9, 2019, 3:56 am
Ups, that was me.
One more point, my additional blood tests showed my folate fall quite a lot so now I started supplementing some but thinking now how to increase it\ with food (and calcium).
Ups, that was me.
One more point, my additional blood tests showed my folate fall quite a lot so now I started supplementing some but thinking now how to increase it\ with food (and calcium).
Quote from Guest on January 10, 2019, 3:12 am
Quote from DareToBeNaive on January 9, 2019, 3:15 am
I don't think it's usefull to track nutrients in cronometer. I also think that sole idea that there should be a general RDA for nutrients is a ridiculous idea. To me it's obvious that it's done for making profit on gullibility of people and their health problems.
And then people started getting obsessed with tracking nutrients and making their health issues even worse. Initially (only) symptoms are managed after taking any kind of drug or a supplement but then situation as a rule always gets worse and much more complicated to solve. And instead of stopping with that circle of adding new things and supplements people usually try even harder as time passes as with any other drud addict. And I think that when it comes to health and eating there is one rule or law that apply to them (and to other things too) and that is the law of reversed effort. The harder we try the worse we do the thing. And the more nutrients(especially isolated nutrients that will make huge imbalances and increase requirements for other ones) we ingest the harder it is for the body to sort things out and actually use them effectively.
I think supplements are bad in most cases but cronometer is not useless, you definitely don't want to be defiient in b-vitamins and vitamin c. Folate deficiency is not fun at all, and folic acid supplements have been linked to cancer. So cronometer and sites like it are useful for finding proper food sources of micronutrients.
Matrixik, parsnips are quite rich in folate and they have almost no VA.
Quote from DareToBeNaive on January 9, 2019, 3:15 am
I don't think it's usefull to track nutrients in cronometer. I also think that sole idea that there should be a general RDA for nutrients is a ridiculous idea. To me it's obvious that it's done for making profit on gullibility of people and their health problems.
And then people started getting obsessed with tracking nutrients and making their health issues even worse. Initially (only) symptoms are managed after taking any kind of drug or a supplement but then situation as a rule always gets worse and much more complicated to solve. And instead of stopping with that circle of adding new things and supplements people usually try even harder as time passes as with any other drud addict. And I think that when it comes to health and eating there is one rule or law that apply to them (and to other things too) and that is the law of reversed effort. The harder we try the worse we do the thing. And the more nutrients(especially isolated nutrients that will make huge imbalances and increase requirements for other ones) we ingest the harder it is for the body to sort things out and actually use them effectively.
I think supplements are bad in most cases but cronometer is not useless, you definitely don't want to be defiient in b-vitamins and vitamin c. Folate deficiency is not fun at all, and folic acid supplements have been linked to cancer. So cronometer and sites like it are useful for finding proper food sources of micronutrients.
Matrixik, parsnips are quite rich in folate and they have almost no VA.
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Matrixik on January 10, 2019, 4:02 am
I also ordered 100g of dried parsnips for checking taste. Newer ate them in my life, it almost don't exist in Poland. But parsley root is available almost everywhere, have like at last 2 times more folate than parsnips and still little amount of vitA in them (Frida Food database showing 8 UI per 100g). Celeriac have a lot of K (probably K1). The only problem I see is how much of this vitamins are still there after drying process and cooking (I will cook them together with rice).
I'm using methylated version of folate for now.
Cronometer also helped me with showing that I ate too little calories when I was not hungry.
I also ordered 100g of dried parsnips for checking taste. Newer ate them in my life, it almost don't exist in Poland. But parsley root is available almost everywhere, have like at last 2 times more folate than parsnips and still little amount of vitA in them (Frida Food database showing 8 UI per 100g). Celeriac have a lot of K (probably K1). The only problem I see is how much of this vitamins are still there after drying process and cooking (I will cook them together with rice).
I'm using methylated version of folate for now.
Cronometer also helped me with showing that I ate too little calories when I was not hungry.
I agree that Cronometer can be useful. You just have to be careful not to solely rely on it since it can't be completely accurate because storage and cooking methods influences micronutrient content.
I use it mainly to check vitamin content of foods and food combinations. I do not track my food intake since I become more orthorexic when I start to track everything strictly.
I agree that Cronometer can be useful. You just have to be careful not to solely rely on it since it can't be completely accurate because storage and cooking methods influences micronutrient content.
I use it mainly to check vitamin content of foods and food combinations. I do not track my food intake since I become more orthorexic when I start to track everything strictly.
Quote from Guest on January 10, 2019, 6:51 pm
Quote from Matrixik on January 10, 2019, 4:02 am
I also ordered 100g of dried parsnips for checking taste. Newer ate them in my life, it almost don't exist in Poland. But parsley root is available almost everywhere, have like at last 2 times more folate than parsnips and still little amount of vitA in them (Frida Food database showing 8 UI per 100g). Celeriac have a lot of K (probably K1). The only problem I see is how much of this vitamins are still there after drying process and cooking (I will cook them together with rice).
I'm using methylated version of folate for now.
Cronometer also helped me with showing that I ate too little calories when I was not hungry.
Haha, interesting, where I live it's the other way around. I don't think I've ever seen parsley root but parsnips are in every store. By the way I quite enjoy having my parnsips and celeriac raw, I just peel them and eat them. Parsnip can be strong but it's ok when it's peeled.
Quote from Matrixik on January 10, 2019, 4:02 am
I also ordered 100g of dried parsnips for checking taste. Newer ate them in my life, it almost don't exist in Poland. But parsley root is available almost everywhere, have like at last 2 times more folate than parsnips and still little amount of vitA in them (Frida Food database showing 8 UI per 100g). Celeriac have a lot of K (probably K1). The only problem I see is how much of this vitamins are still there after drying process and cooking (I will cook them together with rice).
I'm using methylated version of folate for now.
Cronometer also helped me with showing that I ate too little calories when I was not hungry.
Haha, interesting, where I live it's the other way around. I don't think I've ever seen parsley root but parsnips are in every store. By the way I quite enjoy having my parnsips and celeriac raw, I just peel them and eat them. Parsnip can be strong but it's ok when it's peeled.
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