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Carnivore and Bile Acid Malabsorption

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Quote from Tricky on March 20, 2025, 11:29 am
Quote from Janelle525 on March 20, 2025, 6:50 am

Gas is from adrenaline, which can be completely unrelated to diet, and more related to our stress particularly emotional. It causes fermentation no matter what you are eating. The more you ferment food instead of digest it the more health problems we have.

This is the kind of non-sensical stuff you swallow as a Hurd animal and the reason I responded the way I did to your last comment (and the reason I stopped interacting with your posts a long time ago).

You either ingest gas by swallowing it, or it is produced endogenously through chemical reactions.  Generally, if you're ingesting it by swallowing air (primarily because you're eating or drinking inappropriately), it is regurgitated in the form of burping, which is not my problem.  The primary ways gas is produced endogenously are: (1) substances like bicarbonate secreted in the stomach and duodenum that neutralize gastric acid, and (2) bacterial fermentation.  In the first case, you again will likely regurgitate most of that gas as a burp, which is not my problem.  By process of elimination, fermentation is the cause of my lower intestinal gas, which typically shows up about 10-12 hours after I first eat, which, wouldn't you know it, is approximately when you would expect bile to reach your ileum/colon, which is where it begins to encounter large bacterial populations for the first time in a non-SIBO gut.

Adrenaline levels can be related to swallowing air and intestinal gas production via the stress response, but to say "gas is from adrenaline" is, well, exactly the type of thing I would expect Karen Hurd to say lol.

Funny you say you stopped interacting with me, yet are continuing to interact with me lol. Gas is absolutely caused by fermentation you said it yourself. And what causes fermentation? stress hormones. Carnivore would be great at producing lots of stress hormones and it's obvious to everyone by how you speak. 

Quote from Janelle525 on March 21, 2025, 6:03 am
Quote from Tricky on March 20, 2025, 11:29 am
Quote from Janelle525 on March 20, 2025, 6:50 am

Gas is from adrenaline, which can be completely unrelated to diet, and more related to our stress particularly emotional. It causes fermentation no matter what you are eating. The more you ferment food instead of digest it the more health problems we have.

This is the kind of non-sensical stuff you swallow as a Hurd animal and the reason I responded the way I did to your last comment (and the reason I stopped interacting with your posts a long time ago).

You either ingest gas by swallowing it, or it is produced endogenously through chemical reactions.  Generally, if you're ingesting it by swallowing air (primarily because you're eating or drinking inappropriately), it is regurgitated in the form of burping, which is not my problem.  The primary ways gas is produced endogenously are: (1) substances like bicarbonate secreted in the stomach and duodenum that neutralize gastric acid, and (2) bacterial fermentation.  In the first case, you again will likely regurgitate most of that gas as a burp, which is not my problem.  By process of elimination, fermentation is the cause of my lower intestinal gas, which typically shows up about 10-12 hours after I first eat, which, wouldn't you know it, is approximately when you would expect bile to reach your ileum/colon, which is where it begins to encounter large bacterial populations for the first time in a non-SIBO gut.

Adrenaline levels can be related to swallowing air and intestinal gas production via the stress response, but to say "gas is from adrenaline" is, well, exactly the type of thing I would expect Karen Hurd to say lol.

Funny you say you stopped interacting with me, yet are continuing to interact with me lol. Gas is absolutely caused by fermentation you said it yourself. And what causes fermentation? stress hormones. Carnivore would be great at producing lots of stress hormones and it's obvious to everyone by how you speak. 

You came here and responded to my post.  I could've chosen to ignore this, true, but seeing as this is my thread, I felt like correcting your latest misstatement.

You said "gas is from adrenaline" and that adrenaline "causes fermentation no matter what you are eating".  Adrenaline does not inherently lead to fermentation.  It's quite common to have an adrenaline response during the day and not increase bacterial fermentation of food in your digestive tract.  One great way to avoid adrenaline leading to intestinal fermentation is to not eat small amounts of food (especially highly fermentable food like beans) at the top of every hour every day LOL.  By eating low fermentation foods like meat and fat only once or twice a day (i.e., carnivore diet), you go a long way to avoiding fermentation even when having an adrenaline response.  And you're just repeating the same dumb "carnivore/keto causes a stress response" BS that is being aped around the internet by the likes of Saladino and Mercola, who have idiotically swallowed the Peatian sugar pill.  The presence of cortisol (I'm assuming this is what you are referring to) does not mean your body is "stressed out", and carnivore/keto has not been shown to increase cortisol levels longterm anyway; arguably, carnivore/keto should reduce those levels longterm by flattening the cyclical glucose/insulin response you get from eating boluses of carbs multiple times ever day.

I might remind you that I've tried a huge variety of dietary strategies over the years, including eating copious amounts of both soluble and insoluble fiber to my own detriment.  So I'm speaking from experience having done high carb, low carb, high fiber, low fiber, carnivore/keto, etc.  When you've given carnivore an honest try for at least 30 days, I'd be happy to hear about your experience.  Until then, I'm not much interested in your repeating unsupported echoes from the internet.

Maybe I should clarify that I know I'm digesting my food just fine because if I weren't I would be getting hydrogen sulfide gas every single night.  I eat at least a pound of meat at every meal, which contains a fair amount of sulfur.  If I weren't digesting and absorbing it effectively, I would be getting hydrogen sulfide gas every night from bacteria feeding on the sulfur compounds.  Instead, I typically only get hydrogen sulfide gas when I have eaten something that is known to be higher in taurine like heart (I provided an explanation for this earlier), or if I have eaten sulfur-containing collagenous material that is resistant to digestion and likely to reach the colon intact where it can be fermented by bacteria.  Therefore, if I'm on a meat-only diet and not getting hydrogen sulfide gas, the gas must be coming from another source, which I've deduced must primarily be glycine from bile salts passing into the colon.

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