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Chest pains
Is anyone else getting chest pains from avoiding vitamin A? Eye health, cognitive function, memory, sleep, hearing, sense of smell, just about everything seems to be getting better and better. But my inflamed skin doesn't seem to improve at all, if anything it seems to be getting worse, and what's more worrying is the chest pain i've been experiencing, accompanied by weakness. Eating some VA food (cheese) makes it go away but then the systemic inflammation comes back, of course. It's not an initial detox thing, it seems to get worse and worse the longer I avoided VA.
Hmm...are you not doing any dairy? If cheese is helping, maybe your body wants or needs it somehow?
I find that my body does, and I don't regret keeping skim raw dairy in my low VA diet. (both cow and goat) (not grocery store skim, because that will be supplemented with VA) (and not whole). I also sometimes use a scraping of butter.
Dairy is sometimes thought of as an antidote to oxalates...
For me, the B vities (in raw milk) seem to help the nerves in my arm. They start to complain when I remove dairy from my diet (this was something I already knew)
Calcium deficiency?
I'm very intuitive about food and so take what I say with a grain of salt. I think that if you have the ability to consume dairy as an adult (which I've read is a trait not everyone has, and shows that your ancestors adapted to milk)... I think that if you have the ability then it might be a mistake not to use it!
Adaptations are often such that if you gain something you loose something else. For instance, if your skin is genetically adapted to strong sun, living in a weak sun area might make you low in Vitamin D.
Dairy is maligned quite often in our topsy turvy world. However, that attitude is quite new and probably wrong. Dairy can make a whole calf. Just as an egg can make a whole chick. These foods are kind of amazing. There's more than just calcium in there.
Dairy is maligned quite often in our topsy turvy world. However, that attitude is quite new and probably wrong.
Possibly, here's a different historical perspective though:
In the middle ages the nobility would eat some dairy, grains and vegetables but diets rich in dairy, vegetables, legumes and whole grains were for commoners. I suspect that that is how dairy was always viewed, as a poor man's meat, the more wealth a man had the more meat and the less dairy he ate. The nobility had a meat based diet. The nobility rarely used fresh milk, a lot of almond milk was used though.
The nobility tended to be significantly taller than commoners so they didn't suffer from having less dairy in the diet.
@tim-2, I think that the difference between the commoners and the nobility was that the nobility had endless supplies of cream and butter, eggs, while the commoners drank mostly skim and buttermilk, reserving their cream to make butter for a scraping on their bread. Both would have had lard.
I actually think of the nobility as having poor health. Or at least, that they suffered eventually from a diet of too-rich food/wine etc. VA toxicity etc IMO!
Similar to the body builder (strongest man in the world) Louis Cyr. He is a good example of how rich foods are great for you. Until they aren't. (died of kidney failure)
Ever heard of Old Par? Supposedly the oldest British person ever? His diet was sour milk and sourdough his whole life.
Well, it's fun to think about these things for sure!
Yeah they had access to whatever they wanted and they did consume butter and eggs, many were gluttonous, those that didn't eat too much dessert probably did ok. From what I've seen the knights might have had the healthiest all round diet. They probably had less rich dessert. In this video they talk about the diet of the nobility and mention how when an animal was butchered the "umbles" (liver, kidney etc) went to the poor and were often made into umble pie.
Strongmen eat unbelievable amounts of food. It would definitely put a big stress on all their organs. I was watching a video of Hafthor's diet, the icelandic strongman and just because of the sheer amount of food his vA intake was high. They have constant gas as well...
Yeah I'm pretty sure Old Par was a fraud in terms of years alive, I did some research on him. Peoples that consume raw dairy products as a staple often do tend to be associated with more longevity though, I think it could be to do with the lack of oxidized cholesterol in raw dairy.
I think of the nobility as the original wapf'ers, LOL.
"let them eat cake"...
Cake for example, would have probably contained a dozen eggs, a pound of butter, more butter in the frosting, and cream too, the liquid would have been whole milk, and the flour white. Pound cake is so called because you put a pound of each into it.
I read a recipe for soft bread the other day and really it was one step from cake.
Whole grain bread, on the other hand, is a low-VA food, plus it has the fiber to help you detox.
I always also think of the milk cure, which was believed to work better/faster with skim milk. I've also read about poisoned people whose destroyed guts could only digest raw milk, but really good milk can sustain you, you can survive on it. It has a bit of everything, all the nutrients in one place.
Whatever age he lived to, Old Parr died quite quickly, it is said, when he was brought into court and began to eat the way the London royalty ate. Doctors blamed it on the un-pure air. I'm sure he was still pretty darn old for his time, LOL, to end up with the rep he had.
If you look at the face of Henry the 8th, he is portly like Louis Cyr. While Old Parr isn't.
I think in women, what happened is that their reproductive capacities went kaplouie and they became "the princess and the pea" (which I feel like I've become). Delicate and unbalanced. Probably progressed often to low thyroid, which results in the edema under the skin which results in the portly faces we are seeing (but not in Old Parr). (myxedema...)
"But by the end of 1561 Elizabeth was confined to bed with a mysterious illness - one that suggests any relationship between the two remained ongoing. According to witnesses she was suffering from dropsy - now known as oedema - an abnormal swelling of the body due to a build-up of fluid."
Quote from tim on July 20, 2020, 6:25 amStrongmen eat unbelievable amounts of food. It would definitely put a big stress on all their organs. I was watching a video of Hafthor's diet, the icelandic strongman and just because of the sheer amount of food his vA intake was high. They have constant gas as well...
A close person to me suffered a permanently debilitating, auto-immune disease after following a body-builders diet in the 1980's. (blenders of eggs etc)