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New to the forum, but have been reading here for a month or so. I want to say "hello" to all, and hope to be able to contribute to the forum.

I have been on the LVA diet now for about 4 months, and have seen some improvements in minor things, skin, hunger improved, hair color seems to be returning, see better at night. I recently had a doctor appointment, and in my blood work, my liver ast, alt were slightly high and my alp was as high as it has ever been. I was hoping that this is a good sign and that VA or other toxins for that matter were being purged. Has anyone else experienced these levels rising when starting the diet, or is there something else going on here? I will say I am not a member of the LYL program, due to financial reasons, and I can't really afford to do a bunch of testing. Best regards to all, and hope your weekends have been good ones. Peace

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I've noticed a slight setback since not doing plasma donations the last few months. I started LVA in January and was very aggressive with plasma withdrawals, doing 13. I started a daily activated charcoal regimen in January as well and that I have kept up. But I suspect, being relatively new to LVA, that my liver, fat and cells still have much to purge. 

So I'm going back to the clinic this week and I won't be doing plasma as often, but I'm hoping to hit once every two weeks. Maybe that's high but I'm on a lower carb diet, exercise frequently and I have lost fat, which dumps VA per Grant. Other than the plasma draw and charcoal I don't know what else can be done to effectively purge you ahead of schedule. 

I suggested in another post that manual liver bile evacuation procedures might be helpful but that was a guess, and I don't know a doctor who would sign off on it. Responses from doctors are routinely negative in my experience. When I got a blood panel in March I told my doctor to add a vitamin a level and he said "sure", then didn't, and when I complained he told me to schedule another visit (I cannot afford that copay). 

So short of some very low cost direct lab service I don't need a doctor for, I won't be able to track my serum levels well and will have to play it by ear, which I think most do on this forum.

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Colon is the preferred system to remove bile.  Bile is the primary means of removing vA.  When my colon improved and outpaced the bile my liver kicked out, life improved.  Charcoal is crucial.  Easily over done.  Charcoal can slow motility. It adsorbs so well it can reduce signal for peristalsis normal triggered when bile hits colon wall.

Magnesium oxide or magnesium lysinate glycinate helped and helps with motility.  So does green peeled kiwi and prunes.

Psyllium husk powder helps absorb bile as well.  Was a challenge when I started.  Had hypervitaminosis A after 12 years keto / paleo WAPF.  To get more fiber, transitioned to under 10% total calories from fat instead of previous over 70% of total calories from fat.  

As long as colon clears bile daily, less is reabsorbed and less secondary bile acids in liver, gall bladder and serum result.  Life gets better slowly and steadily.

As we learn more on calcium, looks like some forms of calcium help motility also.

@joe2 the problem is not binding bile once it is already in the small intestine. The problem for most people is that not much bile is even coming out of the gallbladder.. 

@joseph-5 pls forget about some surgical "bile evacuation" and do liver flush. Which is bile evacuation but just natural way. You simply eat a lot of fat at once.. I will do another one tomorrow. Will be interesting to see the difference from the previous flush that I did 14 days ago..

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Quote from Jiří on July 21, 2025, 1:37 am

@joe2 the problem is not binding bile once it is already in the small intestine. The problem for most people is that not much bile is even coming out of the gallbladder.. 

@joseph-5 pls forget about some surgical "bile evacuation" and do liver flush. Which is bile evacuation but just natural way. You simply eat a lot of fat at once.. I will do another one tomorrow. Will be interesting to see the difference from the previous flush that I did 14 days ago..

What are the symptoms for low bile in the stool?

Constipation and/or hard to pass stool, different than brown color of the stool and that stool is not sinking but floating in the water. Those are probably the main one and because bile is antibacterial. With lack of bile there will be pathogen issues like candida etc.. Basically healthy stool with bile is brown, dark brown sausage that comes out every easily and everything at once. So you don't feel there is anything left in the colon.. 

and there is really long list of why the body can have a problem with making bile or that bile so to thick, to concentrated, not enough liquid.. It could be very complicated reason or very simple one like to much chronic stress all the time or for example bad diet very low in fat and stuff that is not promoting gallbladder contractions.. In my case It was mix of reasons and on top of that I had low fat diet for very long time. I mean if you eat meals like boiled chicken breast with white rice and veggies there is really no reason for your gallbladder to contract and release bile.. Ideal meals for that are higher in fat, higher in protein, low in starch and high in bitter foods like some herbs veggies.. + I was always eating in stress due to not having enough time to sit down focus only on the meal and slowly and in calm manner chew and eat.. I was always done with the meal even before the liver had any idea that I started eating.. that's why it is recommended to start with something bitter etc. to stimulate digestive juices...

The problem is once there is not bile flow for a log time the bile gets very thick. Slowly calcify stone forming begins.. More and more pathogens build up in bile ducts, gallbladder and colon.. So it is a good idea to take care of that like taking malic acid, more magnesium to slowly dissolve any calcified stuff, do some anti pathogen/anti parasite protocols. Like eat more garlic, eat less sugar, starches, do some herbal cleanses and liver flushes as well. Which is mechanical cleansing of the liver ducts and gallbladder with a lot of fat at once. You build up bile by not consuming fats for couple of days, you do more fiber, ideally enemas to cleanse the colon. You do malic acid to soften calcified stuff and in day of the flush you cleanse and relax the colon by drinking epsom salt and at nigh you drink mixture of citrus fruit juice with olive oil we are talking about 150-200ml of lemon juice with 100-150ml of olive oil on empty stomach. That will make crazy strong gallbladder contraction. You lay down as soon as you drink it. Ideally put some heat on the liver and just focus on breathing. It is crazy like you sometimes feel how stuff is moving in the liver.. Just ideally if someone has already gallbladder attacks etc.. he really needs to make sure that those stones are soften up with malic acid/apple cider vinegar/magnesium before they do the flush.. So many people saved their gallbladder by doing the flushes. I know a guy here in Czech Rep. who should have gallbladder removed. He did multiple flushes did new ultra sound and the stones were gone. What you think the doctor said to him? Well I don't know where are the stones, but we well remove it anyways. He asked why and he said because it is good prevention... Crazy world we live in..

It is strange that people do so much stupid and harmful stuff to their body, but are afraid of something like drinking some citrus juice with olive oil.. THey would rather have that gallbladder removed.. I mean really.. Btw people experience liver flush even with coffee enemas for example. Or just during regular meal where they just had a lot of fat at once. But the flush (Moritz style) works much better because it is ideal scenario to really flush out the most stuff possible..

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Thanks, @ggenereux2014 

I am humbled that you took the time to answer my question, thank you.  This brings some things to focus, as I was taking both nicotinic acid , and lactoferrin. I was going slow with the lactoferrin, as per the instructions, but had ramped my nicotinic acid usage up over these months to quite a high dosage. (400mg). I was quite excited about lactoferrin, as I am anemic and was hopeful it would help with that, but I stopped taking both for now, and must say feel some better. My BUN was also quite high at the doctor, so my kidneys are having a time with something also. I guess the toxicity coming out. I have no spleen, so my kidneys have an extra burden. I have also stopped and will be more reverent of the zinc, selenium, and molybdenum supplements. I guess I pushed things too fast. I did have some days when I felt quite good though.

Thanks to the rest that commented. I did not see anyone specifically comment on liver enzymes other than Grant, but I appreciate the feedback and ideas to consider moving forward. 

Peace and God bless. 

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  • I should have added, when I did my blood panel I saw that my liver stats were normal. Given what I have learned about so many different medicines I'd be hesitant to accept anything they might try to give me if my levels were off. My doctor declined giving me a vitamin a level but my vitamin d was low, so I accepted a d supplement and took it until i watched Grants latest podcast with the lady doctor, where he mentions high D supplements aggravating the damage of high A supplements, so I stopped the D and honestly I didn't feel much difference.

I did my first plasma draw in some months this morning and I feel great. I also found a low cost vitamin a outpatient test I can do so I will hopefully be able to get that done semi-frequently.

As Grant said the vitamin a serum test might not measure success per se, as the detox can lead to higher circulating levels. But he also measured his own levels for years and when he was further on in his journey the serum level of A did start to drop dramatically, which coincided with him feeling in the best of shape.

So that's what I'm hoping for, a steady readout that shows a measurable decline over time. I will be aggressive with plasma draws and I have taken two charcoal pills a day without fail since January and plan to continue. So I hope that combined with a LVA diet gets me to a good number sooner rather than later.

 

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@joseph-5

"So that's what I'm hoping for, a steady readout that shows a measurable decline over time. I will be aggressive with plasma draws and I have taken two charcoal pills a day without fail since January and plan to continue. So I hope that combined with a LVA diet gets me to a good number sooner rather than later."

Just don't forget that in human body is going much more going on that just this idea that you have excess of vit A.. In reality you probably have much more issues than you realize. So it is always a good thing to not be so myopic and always see the body as a system of systems.. What testing you did so you know well what is going on in your body? Btw I think donating whole blood is much better. Pulling your blood from your body and giving it back in you is fucking horrible. By donating whole blood at least you are lowering iron as well. So you can eat red meat without issues..

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