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Dopamine and VA toxicity
Quote from hillcountry on January 25, 2020, 5:30 amHere's a good archive of SSRI damage being done.
Here's a good archive of SSRI damage being done.
Quote from grapes on January 29, 2020, 12:19 amAs this topic talks about depression, I have seen times ago an idea that depression is not actually a disorder, but a body defensive mechanism that puts it into an extreme detox mode. In order to do that an organism should barely function (work, eat etc) (I guess that happens with depression) I don't remember if that was said there or it was my conclusion that one should not fight/treat depression, but rather let it do it's thing.
As this topic talks about depression, I have seen times ago an idea that depression is not actually a disorder, but a body defensive mechanism that puts it into an extreme detox mode. In order to do that an organism should barely function (work, eat etc) (I guess that happens with depression) I don't remember if that was said there or it was my conclusion that one should not fight/treat depression, but rather let it do it's thing.
Quote from lil chick on January 29, 2020, 7:48 amQuote from grapes on January 29, 2020, 12:19 amAs this topic talks about depression, I have seen times ago an idea that depression is not actually a disorder, but a body defensive mechanism that puts it into an extreme detox mode. In order to do that an organism should barely function (work, eat etc) (I guess that happens with depression) I don't remember if that was said there or it was my conclusion that one should not fight/treat depression, but rather let it do it's thing.
That is an interesting take on depression. At the very least it is important to view depression as a symptom, rather than something you just happen to be. I don't believe completely healthy individuals are melancholic. It is so important to remember that the brain is just an organ that gets sick or toxic or deprived of nutrients or overloaded or injured just like the others do.
One of the things about being ill in the brain is that you might be unable to get yourself onto an upward spiral. It would be scary, as a loved one, to see your depressed person avoiding, for instance, all food. That is what some do isn't it? Are they intuiting that their food is killing them? I knew one mentally ill person who subsisted on tea and cigarettes to the point where her teeth fell out. Perhaps we'd also blame some VA-induced gum disease.
Depression seems to run in my family. Hubs thinks I get low in the winter. I don't feel it this year, I've been sunning each day that the sun is out strongly. I feel a bit sun-dazzled after it, and it is uncomfortable and I draw the blinds and burrow-in, LOL. I can see how depressed people might instead choose to just skip right to the burrowing-in. As we know the sun stirs things up and it isn't always comfortable. So perhaps some common depression modalities are detox-avoidance.
If you mean avoid drugs, I'd be right there with you! Gosh I'd try lots of other things before drugs. We can manufaction our own feel-good hormones. There are plenty of common ways, from hugs to good works to exercize etc. Do enough of these things for long enough and they add up. A depressed person might actually have to "fake it till they make it".
Quote from grapes on January 29, 2020, 12:19 amAs this topic talks about depression, I have seen times ago an idea that depression is not actually a disorder, but a body defensive mechanism that puts it into an extreme detox mode. In order to do that an organism should barely function (work, eat etc) (I guess that happens with depression) I don't remember if that was said there or it was my conclusion that one should not fight/treat depression, but rather let it do it's thing.
That is an interesting take on depression. At the very least it is important to view depression as a symptom, rather than something you just happen to be. I don't believe completely healthy individuals are melancholic. It is so important to remember that the brain is just an organ that gets sick or toxic or deprived of nutrients or overloaded or injured just like the others do.
One of the things about being ill in the brain is that you might be unable to get yourself onto an upward spiral. It would be scary, as a loved one, to see your depressed person avoiding, for instance, all food. That is what some do isn't it? Are they intuiting that their food is killing them? I knew one mentally ill person who subsisted on tea and cigarettes to the point where her teeth fell out. Perhaps we'd also blame some VA-induced gum disease.
Depression seems to run in my family. Hubs thinks I get low in the winter. I don't feel it this year, I've been sunning each day that the sun is out strongly. I feel a bit sun-dazzled after it, and it is uncomfortable and I draw the blinds and burrow-in, LOL. I can see how depressed people might instead choose to just skip right to the burrowing-in. As we know the sun stirs things up and it isn't always comfortable. So perhaps some common depression modalities are detox-avoidance.
If you mean avoid drugs, I'd be right there with you! Gosh I'd try lots of other things before drugs. We can manufaction our own feel-good hormones. There are plenty of common ways, from hugs to good works to exercize etc. Do enough of these things for long enough and they add up. A depressed person might actually have to "fake it till they make it".