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I didn't use accutane, but after being on beef beans rice and pasta for about 6 months (6 yr of lowish vit A) I developed dry eye. Is it caused by retinoic acid? How do we neutralize that???

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The past few days I've been having a middling case of dry eyes, as well as consistently godawful night vision. I'm deficient, eh. I also would like to hear how others deal with this paradox (getting deficiency symptoms which are actually toxicity symptoms when your serum levels rise after prolonged depletion). Toughing it out is my present plan.

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Quote from Joseph on September 30, 2025, 2:55 pm

The past few days I've been having a middling case of dry eyes, as well as consistently godawful night vision. I'm deficient, eh. I also would like to hear how others deal with this paradox (getting deficiency symptoms which are actually toxicity symptoms when your serum levels rise after prolonged depletion). Toughing it out is my present plan.

Sorry to hear it happened to you as well. I had my serum retinol checked and it was definitely not deficient, it was 'normal'.

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Quote from Janelle525 on September 30, 2025, 4:08 pm

Sorry to hear it happened to you as well. I had my serum retinol checked and it was definitely not deficient, it was 'normal'.

I'm a bit over 5 months in and positive I'm in the normal range for their tests. Short of giving blood I don't see any answer besides giving it time. And I would never do that for the reason that I am allergic to glorified drug dealers medical professionals. Other symptoms for me are poison ivy-like rashes that come and go, most recently on my inner arms and inner legs, mental dullness in the mornings and my dreams, while still occurring, are now about as clear as mud. What hasn't dissipated is my patience and calm, and new hair continues to grow where it never did before (tops of my arms and hands are the most noticeable).

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I have had this problem as long as I have had rosacea, so I know for me it's not about cutting back on VA.    It's about overload IMO. I've found that the awful feeling that "something is in your eye" is not just a feeling.    The eye doc once showed me, with his special lighting etc, how there was debris on my eyeball.    The eye isn't cleaning itself well enough because of the dryness.

I'm not sure how people lived before magnifying mirrors and q-tips.      It's often what I call "invisible cat hair" but it could also be fiber that floats in the air from textiles in your house etc.    Sometimes the debris mosies over to the corner of your eye near your nose and you can sweep them out with a damp q-tip, but sometimes they just lay right across your eyeball.    Good indirect light, a strong magnifying mirror, a wet q-tip and patience are instrumental.   

The eye doc also said that you can actually clean the rims of your eyelids with a special soap but I didn't do this.   I'd be interested to hear if people do.   I mean, I do believe in soap, isn't it sort of like a bile we can apply to the outside of us?   But I just never did follow up on it for some reason.   Just seemed a bit bizarre.

 

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This isn't debris for me personally; it is very subtle and I wouldn't pick up on it if I wasn't on the alert for this kind of thing. The rashes have almost entirely disappeared in a matter of two days. I have a feeling that all of these symptoms will be intermittent and fleeting. I think for everyone on the planet dry eyes will eventually follow from either high vitamin a or vitamin a depletion, given sufficient time. In the first case it's retinol spilling over when the liver can no longer keep up or store any more, while in the second case it seems to be a deliberate effort of the body to expel the toxin. 

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I get feelings of debris around my eye rim.  I have always associated it with dumping oxalates.  The onset of the pain is at the same time I get all my other oxalate dumping symptoms. The oxalate people say that it is oxalate crystals coming out the rim.  I do believe that there are oil ducts that run along the rim. And while listening to one of Grants books via YouTube, I heard Grant mention something about the eye issue .

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This looks like an idea that could help?   My guess is that it is just helping you detox by moving things along.   (you don't put it on your eye balls, silly)

 

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