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Experimenting with "unclean" No Vitamin A diet while traveling
Quote from YH on March 15, 2019, 8:26 am
Quote from Guest on March 14, 2019, 7:25 pmQuote from Guest on March 11, 2019, 7:26 amI just make homemade sourdough with unfortified wheat. It’s amazing!
Do you use starter? I am in search of starterless sourdough. I have one recipe, but it is with wheat and a small pinch of dry yeast, which I am trying to avoid now.
If without starter, please post recipe! Thank you!
A small amount of yeast shouldn't be a big deal. It helps break down the proteins and carbohydrates in wheat. Additionally, there is evidence that yeast improves the protein quality of bread, and increases the availability of B vitamins. Sourdough is phenomenal wild form yeast, and makes a much better loaf of bread. It will also last 5 days without turning dry, like regular yeasted bread. Baking the bread in a dutch oven will improve the quality even more, because you are essentially steaming the bread and fully gelatinizing the starch.
Look up Tartine's recipe online. Take it slow. View it as a learning experience. It's going to be annoying at the start, but once you make a habit of it, you will be rewarded with amazing bread. It is really eyeopening to see what kind of bread you can bake with a home oven.
Quote from Guest on March 14, 2019, 7:25 pmQuote from Guest on March 11, 2019, 7:26 amI just make homemade sourdough with unfortified wheat. It’s amazing!
Do you use starter? I am in search of starterless sourdough. I have one recipe, but it is with wheat and a small pinch of dry yeast, which I am trying to avoid now.
If without starter, please post recipe! Thank you!
A small amount of yeast shouldn't be a big deal. It helps break down the proteins and carbohydrates in wheat. Additionally, there is evidence that yeast improves the protein quality of bread, and increases the availability of B vitamins. Sourdough is phenomenal wild form yeast, and makes a much better loaf of bread. It will also last 5 days without turning dry, like regular yeasted bread. Baking the bread in a dutch oven will improve the quality even more, because you are essentially steaming the bread and fully gelatinizing the starch.
Look up Tartine's recipe online. Take it slow. View it as a learning experience. It's going to be annoying at the start, but once you make a habit of it, you will be rewarded with amazing bread. It is really eyeopening to see what kind of bread you can bake with a home oven.
Quote from Guest on March 23, 2019, 7:58 amI know mcdonalds ingredients vary by country but where I live their foods are relatviely clean. So look up their ingredient lists in your country. What you could do is order one or 2 hamburgers with nothing but the bun and the meat (+ the onion if you want it), and some fries. The only really bad ingredient is the canola oil but it's going to be refined to hell and back so it wont have any carotenoids. The potatoes might have some carotenoids but it can't be that bad, you're probably getting a bigger retinol exposure from the burger than a couple of yellow fries. I haven't tried this yet but I probably will soon.
I know mcdonalds ingredients vary by country but where I live their foods are relatviely clean. So look up their ingredient lists in your country. What you could do is order one or 2 hamburgers with nothing but the bun and the meat (+ the onion if you want it), and some fries. The only really bad ingredient is the canola oil but it's going to be refined to hell and back so it wont have any carotenoids. The potatoes might have some carotenoids but it can't be that bad, you're probably getting a bigger retinol exposure from the burger than a couple of yellow fries. I haven't tried this yet but I probably will soon.
Quote from windowcleaningtoronto on August 26, 2019, 5:37 pmAny update: Have you tried this experiment since? What happened when you ate fries/coke/burgers etc.Quote from YH on March 9, 2019, 7:45 pmThis past week I was traveling for work. I was in airports and driving on the road. Additionally I had some lunch meetings. This meant that the places I would have to select food from included airports, gas stations, fast food restaurants, and whatever restaurant the company chose. I decided to loosen up the diet and include some unclean, low/no vitamin A foods. I wanted to see if I would feel any worse eating a processed food diet devoid of Vitamin A. I looked out for redness on my hands, headaches, blemishes on my skin, bloating, and muscle tightness around my neck and shoulders. I should preface this by saying these foods were by no means healthy or ideal. I just figured it was a good opportunity to actually test this theory by exposing myself to processed oils and noxious sweeteners, in addition to a host of artificial ingredients and chemicals.
So for snacks and breakfast I had: coffee, beef jerky, jam sandwiches, gas station donuts(trace dairy and eggs), hostess chocolate cupcakes(trace amounts of soy, eggs and milk), dairy/egg free cookies, darkish chocolate(some milk fat, but no milk protein), lemonade, coke, apple sauce, apple juice, pomegranate juice, sweetened iced black tea.
For meals: Plain burgers from fast food chains with raw onion added with fries and a soft drink. Roast turkey/Pastrami/roast beef sandwiches. Steak and Fries/baked potatoes. Saurkraut and beef hot dogs. Pho. Korean Beef and rice.
I made sure to avoid eggs, milky foods, colored fruits and vegetables, and exotic cuisine.
I few surprising things I noted were:
1. My appetite did not become excessive and remained very moderate. I often could not finish my burger and fries, and even left food on my plate. This was despite regularly eating hyper palatable foods. According to some obesity theorists, I should have a raging appetite from exposing myself to these foods. My appetite has been decreasing if anything.
2. No headaches, no change in eyesight, no muscle stiffness. In fact, I felt pretty good.
3. No negative effects on skin.
4. How relatively easy this diet is to follow without access to a kitchen.
5. The American diet is really not that bad.
The reason I did this experiment is to reaffirm that my restricted and "clean" beef, bread, rice, and beans diet was not what was making me feel good. So I ate a terrible diet devoid of vitamin A for a week and felt well. I don't plan on continuing to eat this way, but it is nice to know that I could pop over to Wendy's for a plain burger without ill effects.
Any update: Have you tried this experiment since? What happened when you ate fries/coke/burgers etc.Quote from YH on March 9, 2019, 7:45 pmThis past week I was traveling for work. I was in airports and driving on the road. Additionally I had some lunch meetings. This meant that the places I would have to select food from included airports, gas stations, fast food restaurants, and whatever restaurant the company chose. I decided to loosen up the diet and include some unclean, low/no vitamin A foods. I wanted to see if I would feel any worse eating a processed food diet devoid of Vitamin A. I looked out for redness on my hands, headaches, blemishes on my skin, bloating, and muscle tightness around my neck and shoulders. I should preface this by saying these foods were by no means healthy or ideal. I just figured it was a good opportunity to actually test this theory by exposing myself to processed oils and noxious sweeteners, in addition to a host of artificial ingredients and chemicals.
So for snacks and breakfast I had: coffee, beef jerky, jam sandwiches, gas station donuts(trace dairy and eggs), hostess chocolate cupcakes(trace amounts of soy, eggs and milk), dairy/egg free cookies, darkish chocolate(some milk fat, but no milk protein), lemonade, coke, apple sauce, apple juice, pomegranate juice, sweetened iced black tea.
For meals: Plain burgers from fast food chains with raw onion added with fries and a soft drink. Roast turkey/Pastrami/roast beef sandwiches. Steak and Fries/baked potatoes. Saurkraut and beef hot dogs. Pho. Korean Beef and rice.
I made sure to avoid eggs, milky foods, colored fruits and vegetables, and exotic cuisine.
I few surprising things I noted were:
1. My appetite did not become excessive and remained very moderate. I often could not finish my burger and fries, and even left food on my plate. This was despite regularly eating hyper palatable foods. According to some obesity theorists, I should have a raging appetite from exposing myself to these foods. My appetite has been decreasing if anything.
2. No headaches, no change in eyesight, no muscle stiffness. In fact, I felt pretty good.
3. No negative effects on skin.
4. How relatively easy this diet is to follow without access to a kitchen.
5. The American diet is really not that bad.
The reason I did this experiment is to reaffirm that my restricted and "clean" beef, bread, rice, and beans diet was not what was making me feel good. So I ate a terrible diet devoid of vitamin A for a week and felt well. I don't plan on continuing to eat this way, but it is nice to know that I could pop over to Wendy's for a plain burger without ill effects.