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glutamate interactions with vK and calcium
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Joe2 on August 21, 2025, 11:33 pm
Did anyone get through Garrett's livestream today? Sounds like Kelsey staunched severe menstrual bleeding with megadosing MSG.
He is advocating using msg and amazingly following the order of adding stuff list lesson - unlike his recommendations on zeolite. Again the qualifier is that msg should only be used when already eating a clean low vA diet. The science is intriguing.
Also ironic for anyone who knows a health coach (facilitator) who was fired for experimenting successfully with a basic inexpensive nutrient for the crime of "megadosing."
The science surrounding monosodium glutamate's interactions with vitamin K and with calcium is what intrigues me the most. Also intriguing that the prison diet is already high in glutamates.
Did anyone get through Garrett's livestream today? Sounds like Kelsey staunched severe menstrual bleeding with megadosing MSG.
He is advocating using msg and amazingly following the order of adding stuff list lesson - unlike his recommendations on zeolite. Again the qualifier is that msg should only be used when already eating a clean low vA diet. The science is intriguing.
Also ironic for anyone who knows a health coach (facilitator) who was fired for experimenting successfully with a basic inexpensive nutrient for the crime of "megadosing."
The science surrounding monosodium glutamate's interactions with vitamin K and with calcium is what intrigues me the most. Also intriguing that the prison diet is already high in glutamates.
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lil chick on August 22, 2025, 3:56 am
The gods must be crazy!
This is like that scene in Sleeper when he is told that ice cream sundaes are the most healthful food on the planet.
I guess MSG is in foods we consider healthful, like chicken soup. And it tastes good.
The gods must be crazy!
This is like that scene in Sleeper when he is told that ice cream sundaes are the most healthful food on the planet.
I guess MSG is in foods we consider healthful, like chicken soup. And it tastes good.
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Joe2 on August 22, 2025, 1:50 pm
Let the arguments begin. Wonder how long before he starts another purge of dissenters from his blog.
https://www.msgmyth.com/msg-story
MSG Story | Msgmyth
Let the arguments begin. Wonder how long before he starts another purge of dissenters from his blog.
https://www.msgmyth.com/msg-story
MSG Story | Msgmyth
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Joe2 on August 22, 2025, 1:57 pm
The logic behind the advocacy of miracle interventions like niacin, zeolite and monosodium glutamate is pertinent.
Advocating to increase calcium intake after years of minimizing it and supplementing all 4 of the other macro minerals feels wise. Calcium is an essential nutrient. As far as we can tell it is not endogenously made. Glutamates and niacin are endogenously made in a meat based well fed diet. Zeolite is neither food nor nutrient. It is a form of aluminum silicate.
In all 4 of these ideas, the argument is that we need to avoid these items in foods and supplements UNTIL our liver has been cleared of enough retinoids to be safe. For calcium, that may or may not be accurate. For zeolite, glutamates and niacin, the thought occurs, why are we taking them in at all if the goal is to clear our liver of retinoids and other toxins? If we have to wait until our liver is clear enough to use them to clear our liver why are we using them at all?
The logic behind the advocacy of miracle interventions like niacin, zeolite and monosodium glutamate is pertinent.
Advocating to increase calcium intake after years of minimizing it and supplementing all 4 of the other macro minerals feels wise. Calcium is an essential nutrient. As far as we can tell it is not endogenously made. Glutamates and niacin are endogenously made in a meat based well fed diet. Zeolite is neither food nor nutrient. It is a form of aluminum silicate.
In all 4 of these ideas, the argument is that we need to avoid these items in foods and supplements UNTIL our liver has been cleared of enough retinoids to be safe. For calcium, that may or may not be accurate. For zeolite, glutamates and niacin, the thought occurs, why are we taking them in at all if the goal is to clear our liver of retinoids and other toxins? If we have to wait until our liver is clear enough to use them to clear our liver why are we using them at all?
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Shannon on August 23, 2025, 1:39 pm
I'm pretty sure grass-fed beef would give you enough niacin and glutamate. I just think if you have to supplement a lot of stuff somethings wrong with your diet. Or your plan.
I'm pretty sure grass-fed beef would give you enough niacin and glutamate. I just think if you have to supplement a lot of stuff somethings wrong with your diet. Or your plan.
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Shannon on August 23, 2025, 1:45 pm
@joe2
Why is he against diatomaceous earth which is silicon dioxide? When I read the zeolite article it sounded similar to DE. I'm probably wrong about that though.
@joe2
Why is he against diatomaceous earth which is silicon dioxide? When I read the zeolite article it sounded similar to DE. I'm probably wrong about that though.
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Shannon on August 23, 2025, 2:01 pm
@joe2
I noticed in the msg stream that they described basically experimenting on LYL members by getting them to take msg. Somebody was told not to experiment on the LYL members with that pesky little electrolyte calcium a few months ago and they got fired. I am thinking this is the second additive type ingredient he has promoted: there is also guar gum ( sun fiber) I just think it's odd. I only have 3 ingredients now in my food: beef and salt and then black tea to slow oxalate dumping as a drink.
@joe2
I noticed in the msg stream that they described basically experimenting on LYL members by getting them to take msg. Somebody was told not to experiment on the LYL members with that pesky little electrolyte calcium a few months ago and they got fired. I am thinking this is the second additive type ingredient he has promoted: there is also guar gum ( sun fiber) I just think it's odd. I only have 3 ingredients now in my food: beef and salt and then black tea to slow oxalate dumping as a drink.
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Joe2 on August 24, 2025, 12:12 pm
I think diatomaceous earth risks cutting up membranes that need to be not cut up. Can not remember what Lil g's reasoning was. Curious to see what science papers on livestock feeding say about it. That is what sold me on charcoal. Livestock have been fed charcoal for centuries in and outside of their feed for centuries. Zero anecdotal or otherwise evidence of nutrient reduction. Plenty of evidence of increased thriving. Scads of evidence for toxin reduction. Routinely used in poisonings.
We use diatomaceous earth around the house and yard to kill tiny critters that pester our livestock. Alway careful to keep it quiet. Dust can really hurt respiration. Given the structure of it, I want that outside our bodies only.
Yep. That experimenting is what we did and do. If not calcium, molybdenum, zinc, whatever then it would have been something else. The real crime was probably an unwillingness to sell niacin, zeolite and now MSG.
I think diatomaceous earth risks cutting up membranes that need to be not cut up. Can not remember what Lil g's reasoning was. Curious to see what science papers on livestock feeding say about it. That is what sold me on charcoal. Livestock have been fed charcoal for centuries in and outside of their feed for centuries. Zero anecdotal or otherwise evidence of nutrient reduction. Plenty of evidence of increased thriving. Scads of evidence for toxin reduction. Routinely used in poisonings.
We use diatomaceous earth around the house and yard to kill tiny critters that pester our livestock. Alway careful to keep it quiet. Dust can really hurt respiration. Given the structure of it, I want that outside our bodies only.
Yep. That experimenting is what we did and do. If not calcium, molybdenum, zinc, whatever then it would have been something else. The real crime was probably an unwillingness to sell niacin, zeolite and now MSG.
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