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Glyphosate and AMPA, the modern DDT and DDE
Quote from tim on April 19, 2024, 9:51 am@alexm
Seneff hasn't provided any good evidence for glycine substitution. On the other hand the article I posted provides hard evidence that glycine substitution does not occur.
Seneff has not even provided a glyphosate analysis of gelatin.
I've made very clear points. I'm not here to hold your hand while you process your cognitive dissonance.
Seneff hasn't provided any good evidence for glycine substitution. On the other hand the article I posted provides hard evidence that glycine substitution does not occur.
Seneff has not even provided a glyphosate analysis of gelatin.
I've made very clear points. I'm not here to hold your hand while you process your cognitive dissonance.
Quote from Alex on April 19, 2024, 10:28 am@tim-2 Ok so you are hyper focusing on the glycine substitution stuff and trying to use it as a reason to justify that we shouldn't be that concerned about glyphosate, but there are a lot of other bad things glyphosate has been shown to do which you seem to be ignoring:
None of these studies are conducted by Seneff either:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32398374/#:~:text=These%20findings%20suggest%20that%20maternal,offspring%20after%20maternal%20glyphosate%20exposure "These findings suggest that maternal exposure to high levels of glyphosate causes ASD-like behavioral abnormalities and abnormal composition of gut microbiota in juvenile offspring, and that increased activity of sEH might play a role in ASD-like behaviors in offspring after maternal glyphosate exposure. "
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep39328 "The results of the study presented here imply that chronic consumption of extremely low levels of a GBH formulation (Roundup), at admissible glyphosate-equivalent concentrations, are associated with marked alterations of the liver proteome and metabolome. These changes in molecular profile overlap substantially with biomarkers of NAFLD and its progression to NASH. These alterations correlate with the observed signs of hepatic anatomorphological and biochemical pathological changes in this organ18, and as suggested by transcriptome profiling29.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28627408/
"Developmental exposure to glyphosate-based herbicide and depressive-like behavior in adult offspring: Implication of glutamate excitotoxicity and oxidative stress"
"In vivo, oxidative stress caused by glyphosate is caused by a decrease in glutathione and an increase in the products of lipid peroxidation"
"Exposure to glyphosate had a negative impact on oxidative stress and lung function in farmers who applied glyphosate resulting in an increase in serum MDA and a decrease in serum GHS, FEV1, FEV1/FVC, and PEF. Further studies to assess the long-term effects of glyphosate are warranted."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9101768/ Toxic Effects of Glyphosate on the Nervous System: A Systematic Review
@tim-2 Ok so you are hyper focusing on the glycine substitution stuff and trying to use it as a reason to justify that we shouldn't be that concerned about glyphosate, but there are a lot of other bad things glyphosate has been shown to do which you seem to be ignoring:
None of these studies are conducted by Seneff either:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32398374/#:~:text=These%20findings%20suggest%20that%20maternal,offspring%20after%20maternal%20glyphosate%20exposure "These findings suggest that maternal exposure to high levels of glyphosate causes ASD-like behavioral abnormalities and abnormal composition of gut microbiota in juvenile offspring, and that increased activity of sEH might play a role in ASD-like behaviors in offspring after maternal glyphosate exposure. "
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep39328 "The results of the study presented here imply that chronic consumption of extremely low levels of a GBH formulation (Roundup), at admissible glyphosate-equivalent concentrations, are associated with marked alterations of the liver proteome and metabolome. These changes in molecular profile overlap substantially with biomarkers of NAFLD and its progression to NASH. These alterations correlate with the observed signs of hepatic anatomorphological and biochemical pathological changes in this organ18, and as suggested by transcriptome profiling29.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28627408/
"Developmental exposure to glyphosate-based herbicide and depressive-like behavior in adult offspring: Implication of glutamate excitotoxicity and oxidative stress"
"In vivo, oxidative stress caused by glyphosate is caused by a decrease in glutathione and an increase in the products of lipid peroxidation"
"Exposure to glyphosate had a negative impact on oxidative stress and lung function in farmers who applied glyphosate resulting in an increase in serum MDA and a decrease in serum GHS, FEV1, FEV1/FVC, and PEF. Further studies to assess the long-term effects of glyphosate are warranted."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9101768/ Toxic Effects of Glyphosate on the Nervous System: A Systematic Review
Quote from David on April 21, 2024, 1:50 amQuote from ggenereux on April 14, 2024, 7:55 pmHI @david,
My father was an avid outdoorsman and hunter in the 1950s - 70s. We had a farm in Saskatchewan when I was young.
My dad told me that in the 1950s the forests were filled with birds, predator birds with many species of songbirds. After the introduction of DDT in ~ 1960 almost all bird species effectively became extinct. Only the crows and magpies survived. He said that the forests turned silent and never recovered.
Yes, Glyphosate is DDT 2.0, and I suspect that it’s probably much worse.
I’m quite interested in this topic. Do you have information on where people can get more involved?
Thanks.@ggenereux2014
Thank you for your comment, Grant!I think calling Glyphosate for DDT 2.0 is spot on and I have never heard anyone else phrase it that simply.
Your mentioned many types of birds disappeared from DDT and I suspect that Glyphosate have done something similar with insects. Just for instance I remember how all cars in the summer used to be plastered with all kinds of insects after a long trip. I rarely see this anymore. I think smaller creatures are generally more susceptibal to any kind of poisoning.
In regard to where to get more engaged in the fight to getting rid of Glyphosate I posted this thread called "Stop Glyphosate in Europe" which talks some about the European chapter of the "Pesticide Action Network" who have long been against pesticides:
https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/stop-glyphosate-in-europe/Pesticide Action Network Europe seems to fighting the good fight and have had some results like a >1 million verified signature petition against Glyphosate usage in Europe and they are now in a court case against the EU since the EU had to break their own environmental rules in order to just recently re-approve Glyphosate.
In the USA I don't know of that many organizations but "Moms Across America" seems to have been fighting Glyphosate for a long time.
https://www.momsacrossamerica.com/glyphosate-freeAs a Canadian you might try to get in touch with the long time Glyphosate activist Tony Mitra who I think still lives in Vancouver, BC. I found this contact information from his blog. I think Tony Mitra would certainly have some ideas on how someone can get more involved.
https://www.tonu.org/tag/tony-mitra/Tony Mitra
10891 Cherry Lane, Delta BC, V4E 3L7, Canada
604-6497535 [tony . mitra @ gmail . com]Tony Mitra also has a youtube channel. This six minutes long video from 23:rd of October 2023 is specifically on Glyphosate and Canada:
"Canadan Lentil and India"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZUHO_z8QsIn the end of that video (from 5 min, 20 sec.) Tony Mitra brings up what he sees are the only four options left for the people in Chinada to do because of their bleak and dire situation:
- Grow your own food and stay away from corporate food.
- Leave Canada and live somewhere else.
- Topple the government of Canada, if you can, instead of wasting time with irrelevant things.
- If you can't do anything, then be resigned to a faith of increased child autism, ill health, birth defects, chronic illness and a slow death in your adult life.
For a more scientific route someone might get ask Dr. Michael Antoniou for some relevant information. Dr. Michael Antoniou was one of the two co-authors to the review paper linking evidence that disproves Glyphosate substitution of glycine in proteins as Stehpanie Seneff and Anthony Samsel had theorized. The 2017 review paper is called:
"Facts and Fallacies in the Debate on Glyphosate Toxicity"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705608/Dr. Michael Antoniou is heavily against Glyphosate from his research as is evident from this really short video that is from the 4:th of October, 2023:
https://youtube.com/shorts/7M8lepvcwlA
PS. Stephanie Seneff is a honorary board member of the vitamin A pushing "Weston A. Price Foundation".
"Stephanie Seneff, BS, MS, EE, PhD, is a senior research scientist in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at MIT. Through web posts and journal articles, she is committed to educating people about the importance of adequate dietary cholesterol and fats to good health."
https://www.westonaprice.org/about-us/board-of-directors/#gsc.tab=0
Quote from ggenereux on April 14, 2024, 7:55 pmHI @david,
My father was an avid outdoorsman and hunter in the 1950s - 70s. We had a farm in Saskatchewan when I was young.
My dad told me that in the 1950s the forests were filled with birds, predator birds with many species of songbirds. After the introduction of DDT in ~ 1960 almost all bird species effectively became extinct. Only the crows and magpies survived. He said that the forests turned silent and never recovered.
Yes, Glyphosate is DDT 2.0, and I suspect that it’s probably much worse.
I’m quite interested in this topic. Do you have information on where people can get more involved?
Thanks.
@ggenereux2014
Thank you for your comment, Grant!
I think calling Glyphosate for DDT 2.0 is spot on and I have never heard anyone else phrase it that simply.
Your mentioned many types of birds disappeared from DDT and I suspect that Glyphosate have done something similar with insects. Just for instance I remember how all cars in the summer used to be plastered with all kinds of insects after a long trip. I rarely see this anymore. I think smaller creatures are generally more susceptibal to any kind of poisoning.
In regard to where to get more engaged in the fight to getting rid of Glyphosate I posted this thread called "Stop Glyphosate in Europe" which talks some about the European chapter of the "Pesticide Action Network" who have long been against pesticides:
https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/stop-glyphosate-in-europe/
Pesticide Action Network Europe seems to fighting the good fight and have had some results like a >1 million verified signature petition against Glyphosate usage in Europe and they are now in a court case against the EU since the EU had to break their own environmental rules in order to just recently re-approve Glyphosate.
In the USA I don't know of that many organizations but "Moms Across America" seems to have been fighting Glyphosate for a long time.
https://www.momsacrossamerica.com/glyphosate-free
As a Canadian you might try to get in touch with the long time Glyphosate activist Tony Mitra who I think still lives in Vancouver, BC. I found this contact information from his blog. I think Tony Mitra would certainly have some ideas on how someone can get more involved.
https://www.tonu.org/tag/tony-mitra/
Tony Mitra
10891 Cherry Lane, Delta BC, V4E 3L7, Canada
604-6497535 [tony . mitra @ gmail . com]
Tony Mitra also has a youtube channel. This six minutes long video from 23:rd of October 2023 is specifically on Glyphosate and Canada:
"Canadan Lentil and India"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZUHO_z8Qs
In the end of that video (from 5 min, 20 sec.) Tony Mitra brings up what he sees are the only four options left for the people in Chinada to do because of their bleak and dire situation:
- Grow your own food and stay away from corporate food.
- Leave Canada and live somewhere else.
- Topple the government of Canada, if you can, instead of wasting time with irrelevant things.
- If you can't do anything, then be resigned to a faith of increased child autism, ill health, birth defects, chronic illness and a slow death in your adult life.
For a more scientific route someone might get ask Dr. Michael Antoniou for some relevant information. Dr. Michael Antoniou was one of the two co-authors to the review paper linking evidence that disproves Glyphosate substitution of glycine in proteins as Stehpanie Seneff and Anthony Samsel had theorized. The 2017 review paper is called:
"Facts and Fallacies in the Debate on Glyphosate Toxicity"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705608/
Dr. Michael Antoniou is heavily against Glyphosate from his research as is evident from this really short video that is from the 4:th of October, 2023:
https://youtube.com/shorts/7M8lepvcwlA
PS. Stephanie Seneff is a honorary board member of the vitamin A pushing "Weston A. Price Foundation".
"Stephanie Seneff, BS, MS, EE, PhD, is a senior research scientist in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at MIT. Through web posts and journal articles, she is committed to educating people about the importance of adequate dietary cholesterol and fats to good health."
https://www.westonaprice.org/about-us/board-of-directors/#gsc.tab=0
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Quote from Joe2 on December 29, 2025, 10:57 pmJoel Salatin, CarbonCowboys, Greg Judy and a growing host of farmers prove the agricultural lie that poisons are needed to farm daily. Plenty all over the internet on them. Great start is Polyface Farm. Wise poison free farming is much more productive and profitable. It also rebuilds soil and sequesters carbon. It requires farmers integrate livestock and a variety of crops. ZERO monocropping. ZERO factory farming.
Meanwhile:
Joel Salatin, CarbonCowboys, Greg Judy and a growing host of farmers prove the agricultural lie that poisons are needed to farm daily. Plenty all over the internet on them. Great start is Polyface Farm. Wise poison free farming is much more productive and profitable. It also rebuilds soil and sequesters carbon. It requires farmers integrate livestock and a variety of crops. ZERO monocropping. ZERO factory farming.
Meanwhile: