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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
I'm currently using olive oil. Limited processing and small amounts of each while also good for microbiome.
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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
I'm currently using olive oil. Limited processing and small amounts of each while also good for microbiome.
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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
I'm currently using olive oil. Limited processing and small amounts of each while also good for microbiome.
I’ve been using extra virgin olive oil too, it really promotes strong bile flow. Hence why people use it for liver flushes. My skin looks much better when I use it. Don’t cook with virgin olive oil it creates a liver toxin when heated it should only be had neat.
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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
I'm currently using olive oil. Limited processing and small amounts of each while also good for microbiome.
I’ve been using extra virgin olive oil too, it really promotes strong bile flow. Hence why people use it for liver flushes. My skin looks much better when I use it. Don’t cook with virgin olive oil it creates a liver toxin when heated it should only be had neat.
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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
I think the key point to remember is PUFAs are the main precursors of the inflammatory mediators of the body so the higher PUFA consumption the more inflammation. Then PUFA also cause reductive stress which means decreased NAD levels and we need that for the ALDH and ADH enzymes among lots of other things.
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Hermes on May 21, 2023, 1:09 pm
What can damage the intestinal barrier?
2. Industrial seed oils: Industrial seed oils are processed oils such as canola oil, corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil. These oils are rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. Consumption of these oils was found to be associated with inflammatory processes in the intestine as well as damage to the balance of bacteria in the intestine.
The above quote is from the article linked by OP.
That's why I'm still not convinced about the health benefits of omega-6 fatty acids. There's a lot of confusing and seemingly contradictory information out there. At first, I was really excited about the use of PEOs as described by Brian Perskin. I've read some other sources that see unsaturated fatty acids in a different light.
I think the key point to remember is PUFAs are the main precursors of the inflammatory mediators of the body so the higher PUFA consumption the more inflammation. Then PUFA also cause reductive stress which means decreased NAD levels and we need that for the ALDH and ADH enzymes among lots of other things.
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Alex on May 22, 2023, 7:32 am
On the topic of gut health I’m currently trying out Grapefruit seed extract (different to grape seed extract) as a antimicrobial and antifungal. Grapefruit does inhibit the CYP enzymes, but I haven’t had any issues with it doing that so far. It seems to have improved my bowel movements.
Now my bile and minerals levels are better taking antimicrobials is like a walk in the park where as before I had fixed those things the antimicrobials always used to give me huge issues.
On the topic of gut health I’m currently trying out Grapefruit seed extract (different to grape seed extract) as a antimicrobial and antifungal. Grapefruit does inhibit the CYP enzymes, but I haven’t had any issues with it doing that so far. It seems to have improved my bowel movements.
Now my bile and minerals levels are better taking antimicrobials is like a walk in the park where as before I had fixed those things the antimicrobials always used to give me huge issues.
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Hermes on May 22, 2023, 7:58 am
@alexm
You've inspired me to look into coffee enemas. They're touted as returning the body to the matrix of perfection. Total hyperbole, probably. You've also mentioned their positive effects on your health. How much would you say have they contributed to your improved health?
In my case, I really feel like there's something wrong with my digestion. For one thing, I know I have SIBO, which is bacteria where it should not be. Probably enemas won't help much with this as they target the colon. Perhaps improving the flow of bile will eventually help reduce the SIBO, as bile is known to be a powerful disinfectant. Anyway, so far, eggs and a low vitamin A diet for over four years have not made much difference to my erratic sleep patterns, so I am still looking for answers.
You've inspired me to look into coffee enemas. They're touted as returning the body to the matrix of perfection. Total hyperbole, probably. You've also mentioned their positive effects on your health. How much would you say have they contributed to your improved health?
In my case, I really feel like there's something wrong with my digestion. For one thing, I know I have SIBO, which is bacteria where it should not be. Probably enemas won't help much with this as they target the colon. Perhaps improving the flow of bile will eventually help reduce the SIBO, as bile is known to be a powerful disinfectant. Anyway, so far, eggs and a low vitamin A diet for over four years have not made much difference to my erratic sleep patterns, so I am still looking for answers.
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Alex on May 22, 2023, 10:56 pm
@christian Daily Coffee Enemas have been the single most important thing I did for my health. When I first went low Vit A my health fell apart completely I had bad confusion, bad autistic symptoms, neuropathy, felt like I was crumbling apart neurologically. I could barely tolerate any foods and I couldn’t tolerate iron foods at like red meat without getting bad blood sugar issues and dry mouth, I think I was overloaded in iron. Doing the coffee enemas for 6 months helped with all of that massively. But when I added in Pectasol (which I took separately to the enemas) that’s when I started making real progress, and I started clearing out this burning yellow liquid that smelt like pineapple. Personally I think this could have been aldehydes, vitamin A, or some heavy metals or some chronic infection like Clostridia, but every time my face looked much younger after I started clearing this out. I used to have issues tolerating oxalates but after the enemas I have no issues with oxalates anymore. The coffee enemas do deplete your potassium so I liked using well cooked cauliflower or pineapple to replenish the potassium afterwards. Oats were also helpful as a binder. Phosphatidylcholine was also helpful after the enemas sometimes if they were too intense. The only thing I liked putting in the enemas was Mega IGG 2000 which is an immunoglobulin supplement that helps rebuild the mucosal barrier of the gut and also helps get rid of pathogens and toxins.
I don’t think going low Vit A clears out the liver properly that’s why lots of people in here still have issues tolerating a lot of things.
@christian Daily Coffee Enemas have been the single most important thing I did for my health. When I first went low Vit A my health fell apart completely I had bad confusion, bad autistic symptoms, neuropathy, felt like I was crumbling apart neurologically. I could barely tolerate any foods and I couldn’t tolerate iron foods at like red meat without getting bad blood sugar issues and dry mouth, I think I was overloaded in iron. Doing the coffee enemas for 6 months helped with all of that massively. But when I added in Pectasol (which I took separately to the enemas) that’s when I started making real progress, and I started clearing out this burning yellow liquid that smelt like pineapple. Personally I think this could have been aldehydes, vitamin A, or some heavy metals or some chronic infection like Clostridia, but every time my face looked much younger after I started clearing this out. I used to have issues tolerating oxalates but after the enemas I have no issues with oxalates anymore. The coffee enemas do deplete your potassium so I liked using well cooked cauliflower or pineapple to replenish the potassium afterwards. Oats were also helpful as a binder. Phosphatidylcholine was also helpful after the enemas sometimes if they were too intense. The only thing I liked putting in the enemas was Mega IGG 2000 which is an immunoglobulin supplement that helps rebuild the mucosal barrier of the gut and also helps get rid of pathogens and toxins.
I don’t think going low Vit A clears out the liver properly that’s why lots of people in here still have issues tolerating a lot of things.
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@christian I have gathered some contradictory evidence on the idea unadulterated omega 6 are unhealthy (because I’ve been digging into understanding the low-saturated-fat, high-carb vegan success stories, like Udo Erasmus).
Here’s a systematic review: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30655101/
The researchers concluded:
“High fat and high SFA diets can exert unfavorable effects on the gut microbiota and are associated with an unhealthy metabolic state. Also high MUFA diets may negatively affect gut microbiota whereas PUFA do not seem to negatively affect the gut microbiota or metabolic health outcomes.”
I’ll post another paper on this for you in the “antidote” thread.
ETA: fixed broken link
@christian I have gathered some contradictory evidence on the idea unadulterated omega 6 are unhealthy (because I’ve been digging into understanding the low-saturated-fat, high-carb vegan success stories, like Udo Erasmus).
Here’s a systematic review: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30655101/
The researchers concluded:
“High fat and high SFA diets can exert unfavorable effects on the gut microbiota and are associated with an unhealthy metabolic state. Also high MUFA diets may negatively affect gut microbiota whereas PUFA do not seem to negatively affect the gut microbiota or metabolic health outcomes.”
I’ll post another paper on this for you in the “antidote” thread.
ETA: fixed broken link
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Orion on May 23, 2023, 8:01 am
@alexm Could you describe what you do for the coffee enemas, is there a certain protocol you follow? Thanks
@alexm Could you describe what you do for the coffee enemas, is there a certain protocol you follow? Thanks
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