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Heated Retinol
I was reading Grant's second book and it got me pondering things as they usually do.
Retinol is safer than retinoic acid. In order for Retinol to turn into retinoic acid, a simple oxidation process is required. This can be done when retinol is suspended in a dilute solution and heated. Pasteurization is one such process.
Animals are fed high Vitamin A diets. The milk is also supplemented with Vitamin A and D before Pasteurization. A little over 1/3 of retinol in milk is "reduced" after Pasteurization. It is highly likely that it was converted to retinoic acid. The products that are produced are essentially micro doses of Accutane every time we consume pasteurized dairy along with the Retinol that remained intact. I am started to think that this is what caused the majority of my issues.
Cooking eggs also "reduces" Vitamin A/retinol. Luckily eggs don't have as much retinol as milk but the process may be the same.
The reason I feel dairy is the main culprit for me is that it is the common denominator when it comes to Vitamin A. I ate a ton of dairy as a child and teenager. First symptoms I remember was eczema at age 13. This was before any vices like smoking or drinking or any of that. I also really consumed a lot during my bodybuilding/fitness years. Back in 2018, we ran into Dr. Gundry and his lectin centered paradigm. In doing so, we eliminated basically all animal foods and I ate a ton of sweet potatoes and other oxalate/beta carotene rich foods. I worked out but never had any skin/joint/fatigue issues until I started eating a bunch of dairy/eggs again. The resulting flare started June 2018 and lasted until July 2019. Mid way through I stopped eating basically all the plant foods and me and my wife went keto. I was excited and it wasn't until I went full muscle meat carnivore that my symptoms resolved, temporarily. Eating nothing but muscle meat is very boring so of course I would add dairy back into my diet. Cream, sour cream, cheese, butter, tons of it. All through 2020 I had minor symptoms wax and wane until my symptoms came back full force in March of 2021.
late 2017- Gundry plus working out
early 2018- Gundry plus diary foods plus working out
June 2018- full blown autoimmune
March 2019- keto
July 2019- carnivore plus working out
Late 2019- carnivore plus diary plus working out (symptoms wax and wane)
2020-carnivore plus dairy plus working out (symptoms wax and wane)
March 2021- shit hits fan once again
I also blame all my health problems on dairy. Just the worst food on earth for at least 90 percent of the population. Also makes sense because humans only ate it for a few thousand years. We are not adapted to dairy at all. It might be different for raw grass fed A2 dairy, but thats not the dairy you find in supermarkets. Ive read so many stories about people getting fucked up by dairy (especially milk), its crazy.
By the way, I was wondering if there is less VA in casein A2. But I have not found any evidence of this. Most likely, it's just marketing.
I agree with Max, BEFORE a friend persuaded me to take a megadose of VA for acne, I ALREADY had acne and other problems related to VA. And most likely, the main culprit of this is dairy products. I wouldn't say that I ate a lot of liver or colored vegetables as a child.
I don't have so much trouble with dairy as I do with eggs. Are you in the US or somewhere else they add fortify milk? They don't put anything in it here.
Quote from Spokes on September 14, 2021, 10:28 amI don't have so much trouble with dairy as I do with eggs. Are you in the US or somewhere else they add fortify milk? They don't put anything in it here.
I am located in the center of the US where they fortify milk with A and D, along with cereal. They don't have to list vitamin A content on the labels by law anymore. All a bit strange.
Mexico fortifies their sugar with A. Crazy.
So much for Mexi cokes. It is indeed, all very strange.