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Quote from Jiří on September 1, 2022, 1:38 am

If you don't want to eat meats and you crave sugar and things like chocolate it tells me that you are pushing your adrenals too much.. I would say eating chocolate is ok if you are not running into adrenal fatigue. If you have good zinc, protein(meat) intake and you simply like chocolate.. But most people want to eat chocolate becase it gives his body "energy kick" but that copper, stimulants in cocoa and sugar will deplete adrenals more and more.. What most people need to do is relax, keep stress low and eat some good meat with some starches.. In my worst time during adrenal fatigue/copper toxicity I was chocolate maniac.. 

I'm eating more meats now, getting a pressure cooker helped make the meat less inflammatory as when I used to pan fry on low heat with a small amount of fat or oil I would get bad gallbladder pain as toxic liver chemicals called AGES are created when pan frying and in other types of cooking methods.

However the meat doesn't seem to help stop the detox symptoms much and the Vitamin A is wrecking havoc on my body its ruined my month and getting concerning. 

I've been eating starches like parsnips , sourdough bread and they don't help much either. I tried white potatoes and they were inflammatory to my gallbladder, all kinds of rice I also haven't been able to tolerate in the last few months.

I've been relaxing, on beans, parsnips, sourdough bread and meat and they don't seem to help with the detox symptoms. The sourdough bread combined with beef and beans is also too much iron for me and that causes a depletion of copper and diabetes symptoms, I've been eating chicken instead now but the detox symptoms are still bad. 

 

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@alexm I don't see how chocolate can help you with the detox... If you want to eat more copper I would try buckwheat instead of chocolate and also what about oats? They have the best type of soluble fiber which is beta glucan...

@jiri Yeah I'm not saying now that chocolate is helping me detox Vit A, I eat milk chocolate which doesn't have that much copper, I don't crave high copper things like cashew nut butter and mushrooms at all  or pinto beans so its not about the copper much.

I eat the chocolate because my Low Vit A diet doesn't have much fat and its one of the only fats I can tolerate with my gallbladder issues, I'm an underweight type and the Vit A detox causes my body weight drop dramatically despite eating a lot of protein, carbs and calories. My body seems unable to protect itself from the Vitamin A being released and I get extreme symptoms which feel like damage is being done despite eating 100 grams of protein and having a good amount of soluble fiber (I'm not having too much), and supplementing with minerals (in the right amounts).

One thing I have noticed is I'm losing calcium badly on this detox my teeth enamel is getting destroyed(becoming translucent on parts), hair falls out when I take magnesium, so thats a big part of why the milk chocolate helps. And supplementing with calcium is a bad idea as its not bioavailable and dangerous for my gallbladder.

I'm already getting plenty of fiber from sourdough bread, butter beans, pinto beans, apple pectin, psylium husk and kidney beans and apples on occasion, I'm not having all of these everyday of course I rotate them.

Oat bran I have had and its ok but I find a lot of the brands of organic grains like buckwheat are toxic and contaminated with glyphosate and also they smell bad.

 

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@jiri Also I'm not having the chocolate everyday, I'm only having it when the symptoms become too much and unlike fruit it actually helps improve the symptoms.

When only eating the other foods I mentioned above and taking magnesium I also become constipated which is not good, the fats from the chocolate helps the constipation.

 

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@alexm take vit K2. You probably run low like most people.. It should help with teeth. For fats try some good extra virgin olive oil. It seems to work best for flushing out gall stones and keep bile running.. Saturated fats from chocolate are bad idea for this purpose..

@jiri I already take it and hasn't helped with teeth, I take a liposomal vitamin d3 and k2 spray supplement it helps a lot with bile flow and fat digestion.

Extra Virgin Olive oil I don't tolerate its always caused bad gallbladder pain, on the LYL programme it says EVOO should be avoided because of carotenoids and polyphenols

Saturated fats are actually the main trigger of bile release, while I don't do well with butter or coconut oil I do well with chocolate, the chocolate is fast digesting because of the sugar fat combo and low fiber which is probably why it doesn't cause me any gallbladder issues.

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I assume the chocolate I eat also probably contains refined cocoa butter rather than unrefined because I have tried raw cacao butter nibs and felt really bad from them. It's only this one brand of chocolate I tolerate, the other brands do cause gallbladder pain and irritation, I think because it contains no vegetable oils, emulsifiers and also because its likely contains refined fats than unrefined.

I spent a sleepless night over the weekend after having a cup of coffee in the morning, and then a large chocolate dessert at about 7:00 PM.  These stimulant plant poisons must be quite challenging to me personally.  

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Dark chocolate was one of the worst things I ate at the start of the detox for inflaming the skin and making it peel. I'm fairly sure now that the high fibre and high fat are actually increasing the detox. I've limited it to 20 grams a day when I have it. Cocoa with fibre has a similar effect but has less fat so not as strong.

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Cita de AlexM el 17 de agosto de 2022 a las 4:46 am

En esta desintoxicación de Vit A, parece que me golpea como una tonelada de ladrillos el exceso de retinol que flota, donde tengo síntomas extremos en los que no puedo funcionar en absoluto y siento como si mi cuerpo estuviera dañado.

Tampoco tengo ganas de comer carne cuando esto sucede y cuando me obligo a hacerlo ni siquiera ayuda, los minerales (magnesio, zinc, potasio), aglutinantes, fibra soluble tampoco ayudan en estas situaciones.

Lo único que ayuda es el chocolate con leche y como una gran cantidad de 1 a 2 barras de 100 g, instantáneamente me siento mucho mejor y aliviado y parece que excreto vitamina A en la orina y las heces al tomar chocolate.

He leído que el ácido esteárico y el ácido palmático que se encuentran en el chocolate se unen a la vitamina a para crear ésteres de retinol que son dañinos y lo devuelven al hígado. ¿Crees que esta es la razón por la que me siento mejor o crees que me está ayudando? excreción. También soy un tipo delgado, así que parece que necesito grasa.

También pienso que las grasas proporcionan energía a las mitocondrias y sufro de Asperger, por lo que con el exceso de retinol flotando quizás mis mitocondrias no puedan funcionar correctamente.

When I eat too much chickpeas for the soluble fiber they fatigue me massively and I get bad joint pain. So I need to find some new food options as eating just beans/chickpeas and meat I really feel like death and have 0 energy to do anything.

thanks

Chocolate has a lot of copper. Copper is very important for hepatic iron detoxification. When iron is very high in the liver, zinc does not enter. chocolate a lot of copper, iron is released from the liver, zinc enters, a large amount of vitamin A is released into the bloodstream. moments to eat activated charcoal
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