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Hunger
Quote from Guest on December 22, 2018, 8:41 pm
Abdominal pain and digestive issues are what led me to happen on to Grant's theories and I have been experimenting for about 6 weeks with low VA. One thing I have noticed has been increased hunger. Overall hunger is up and I have experienced several periods of insatiable hunger (I have been having this for about a week now most recently).
It is unbelievable how hungry I am. Eating just rice and beef or oatmeal is not enough because I feel full too soon yet still hungry. I have to add lots of honey/brown sugar to start feeling satiated.
I have experienced many gains so far and am very encouraged!
Abdominal pain and digestive issues are what led me to happen on to Grant's theories and I have been experimenting for about 6 weeks with low VA. One thing I have noticed has been increased hunger. Overall hunger is up and I have experienced several periods of insatiable hunger (I have been having this for about a week now most recently).
It is unbelievable how hungry I am. Eating just rice and beef or oatmeal is not enough because I feel full too soon yet still hungry. I have to add lots of honey/brown sugar to start feeling satiated.
I have experienced many gains so far and am very encouraged!
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Liz on December 23, 2018, 12:07 am
Oohhh that is exciting. Do you eat low fat or have you any added fats/nuts to your diet as well? Gluten? Dr G writes about increased hunger being a detox syntom. I am about 5 weeks in and am still waiting for it to kick in.
Grant - did you experience increased hunger at some point, and at what point did it go away? I cant remember if you have written about it in your books or not.
Oohhh that is exciting. Do you eat low fat or have you any added fats/nuts to your diet as well? Gluten? Dr G writes about increased hunger being a detox syntom. I am about 5 weeks in and am still waiting for it to kick in.
Grant - did you experience increased hunger at some point, and at what point did it go away? I cant remember if you have written about it in your books or not.
Quote from Guest on December 23, 2018, 1:37 am
Try short grain rice. It's very digestible and it doesn't take up a lot of "space" so you can eat many servings in one sitting.
Try short grain rice. It's very digestible and it doesn't take up a lot of "space" so you can eat many servings in one sitting.
I second fats. Even before I started the low vit A diet, I started adding more fat to meals and it helped me feel satiated longer and I think it also helped improve my digestion.
At the beginning of summer, I would rapidly feel full when eating oatmeal. Now, I can eat more than a cup (dry) of cooked quick oats in one sitting.
You might want to try different foods/types of rice. I know strangely enough that I could eat more brown rice than white rice when digestion was struggling.
Another hypothesis could be that your body is dumping vit A. When I eat high A foods, I get hungry again faster and need to snack more between meals. If I'm low A, I can feel satieted from breakfast to lunch without snacking on anything.
I second fats. Even before I started the low vit A diet, I started adding more fat to meals and it helped me feel satiated longer and I think it also helped improve my digestion.
At the beginning of summer, I would rapidly feel full when eating oatmeal. Now, I can eat more than a cup (dry) of cooked quick oats in one sitting.
You might want to try different foods/types of rice. I know strangely enough that I could eat more brown rice than white rice when digestion was struggling.
Another hypothesis could be that your body is dumping vit A. When I eat high A foods, I get hungry again faster and need to snack more between meals. If I'm low A, I can feel satieted from breakfast to lunch without snacking on anything.
Also, there is nothing wrong with added sugars. Your body needs energy for repairs and it's easy to digest. Vitamins (if they matter at all) are not the only thing your body needs.
Also, there is nothing wrong with added sugars. Your body needs energy for repairs and it's easy to digest. Vitamins (if they matter at all) are not the only thing your body needs.
Quote from Guest on December 23, 2018, 7:50 am
Hunger is good. It's really a simple calories in and calories out equation. Just up your calories and maybe add extra tbsp of fat. I might try cream of coconut as an alternative fat source.
-Ron
Hunger is good. It's really a simple calories in and calories out equation. Just up your calories and maybe add extra tbsp of fat. I might try cream of coconut as an alternative fat source.
-Ron
Quote from Guest on December 23, 2018, 9:33 am
I seem to tolerate fat from beef best. I have experimented with olive oil, sesame oil, and butter but seem to tolerate them less than beef fat. Right now I am eating roughly 2 pounds of beef per day with rice and lots of honey and feel like I could easily eat another pound of beef (it's just so expensive).
I seem to tolerate fat from beef best. I have experimented with olive oil, sesame oil, and butter but seem to tolerate them less than beef fat. Right now I am eating roughly 2 pounds of beef per day with rice and lots of honey and feel like I could easily eat another pound of beef (it's just so expensive).
"2 pounds of beef" , " feel like I could easily eat another pound of beef (it's just so expensive)."
What for? Such a huge amount of meat cannot but cause problems in the long run. Its expensive as all other "healthy" foods for a reason. Body simply don't know what to do with all that nutrition and it puts an enormous strain on our body and its very damaging my friend. 100-200 grams of meat in a day is more than enough to cover basic nutritional needs. Meat contains all nutrition. Other stuff can be just pure calories.
"2 pounds of beef" , " feel like I could easily eat another pound of beef (it's just so expensive)."
What for? Such a huge amount of meat cannot but cause problems in the long run. Its expensive as all other "healthy" foods for a reason. Body simply don't know what to do with all that nutrition and it puts an enormous strain on our body and its very damaging my friend. 100-200 grams of meat in a day is more than enough to cover basic nutritional needs. Meat contains all nutrition. Other stuff can be just pure calories.
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puddleduck on December 28, 2018, 2:47 pm
That’s awesome, guest! I experienced “extreme hunger” when I began recovery from anorexia four years ago, and it lasted for several months. I easily ate above my caloric minimum (I’d say I averaged at least 5,000 calories total daily) for the first 3 to 4 months. Here are two articles that expain why you get full before you’re satiated (they’re for eating disorder patients, but I wonder if some of this stuff might still apply in your case, since perhaps you weren’t digesting food properly, or undereating due to pain and discomfort?):
Part One: https://edinstitute.org/paper/2012/5/22/extreme-hunger-1-what-is-it
Part Two: https://edinstitute.org/paper/2013/4/9/extreme-hunger-part-2-the-experience-and-science
I personally used a lot of processed carbohydrate foods (primarily sugar and unbleached flour products, etc) and fat in order to respond to extreme hunger, since it was so difficult to “fit in” as many calories as my body was asking for. That’s perhaps harder to do on this diet, but it sounds like you’re doing well! 😁 Congratulations on this milestone, and I hope your digestion continues to improve.
That’s awesome, guest! I experienced “extreme hunger” when I began recovery from anorexia four years ago, and it lasted for several months. I easily ate above my caloric minimum (I’d say I averaged at least 5,000 calories total daily) for the first 3 to 4 months. Here are two articles that expain why you get full before you’re satiated (they’re for eating disorder patients, but I wonder if some of this stuff might still apply in your case, since perhaps you weren’t digesting food properly, or undereating due to pain and discomfort?):
Part One: https://edinstitute.org/paper/2012/5/22/extreme-hunger-1-what-is-it
Part Two: https://edinstitute.org/paper/2013/4/9/extreme-hunger-part-2-the-experience-and-science
I personally used a lot of processed carbohydrate foods (primarily sugar and unbleached flour products, etc) and fat in order to respond to extreme hunger, since it was so difficult to “fit in” as many calories as my body was asking for. That’s perhaps harder to do on this diet, but it sounds like you’re doing well! 😁 Congratulations on this milestone, and I hope your digestion continues to improve.
