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New here and don't know if this is the proper place to introduce myself. But here goes. I found Grant's website via Dr. Garrett Smith. It was kind of by accident, but the timing was perfect. I came here immediately, devoured the entire blog and started eating Low-A that very day, October 25th, 2018. I also put my daughter on the same "woe" ("way of eating"). Very long story short, she is 22 years old but developmentally disabled with multiple health issues including epilepsy (since infancy). Many years of taking seizure drugs have wrecked her liver and given her full-blown osteoporosis. For the past ten years, her neurologist has insisted on high doses of vit D3, because her blood levels have been just rock bottom. Even 10K ius a day for over the previous year didn't budge that level. I knew something else was very wrong. She's also been treated to me "trying to make her better" over the years, experimenting with various "healthy diets", including Keto, Paleo and (ugh) the WAP lifestyle, with lots of lovely fermented cod liver oil. I just want to go back in time and scream at myself now! My lame lay-person understanding of fat-soluble vitamins told me that with all the extra D3 she'd been getting, I needed to "balance" that with lots of vitamin A, so I was still spooning in the CLO up until that fateful day last October. She's had psoriasis and eczema most of her life. It waxes and wanes but nothing ever made much difference, diet or supplement-wise, or topical treatments. As far as myself, I am now 64 yrs old, but grew up with a sort of WAP-influenced lifestyle because my parents were influenced by my aunt and uncle who were naturopathic doctors back in the 1960's. We kids got fresh raw goat's milk and CLO growing up. Other than that, I've had the usual input of Vitamin A that all of us have, including regular multi-vitamin supplements and prenatal vitamins during all four of my pregnancies... and I've been a "health nut" type for many years, stuffing my family full of the whole damn rainbow, etc. Typical story, eh? ANYWAY, I read most of Grant's first book with my jaw hanging open. My husband can attest that I frequently jumped up out of my chair to force him to listen while I read a passage aloud to him... sometimes collapsing in tears of frustration over how duped we've all been! So, here we are. My daughter and I are at about 2 & 1/2 months in on this new lifestyle. My own symptoms prior to this were kind of vaguely "fibromyalgia-ish", chronic sinus stuff and headaches, insomnia, weight gain... but nothing doctors could ever find that was really wrong. Tests all "normal". I cook low-A at home and my husband plays along, but isn't quite as strict as we are. I've been as diligent as possible with this, but I'm determined not to go full-tilt psycho on it... as I have a tendency to do that. I want this to be a real "long haul" change. Of course, I realize each person is different in terms of how long they really need to avoid intake of A, but I'm prepared for a good long time because I know we've had more exposure than many people. I wish I could say I was seeing miraculous changes, especially in my daughter's skin conditions, but nothing to jump and shout about yet. I spent most of December sick with the virus from hell (or could there have been a little detoxing involved there, too? Who knows?), so have just kept plugging away. Eating a lot of oatmeal, white rice, black beans, lean grass fed beef, oven-roasted cauliflower and parsnips, potatoes, bananas, sunflower butter, homemade hummus. About 95% of the food I buy is organic. I have kind of used Dr. Smith's food list as a guide, although I don't 100% agree with everything included there. Trying to also use Grant's book as a reference and just my own instincts. I use a bare minimum of supplements for both of us, because I just think they sometimes get in the way. Topical magnesium chloride has been great, though. I could go on but this is quickly becoming a novel already. I am frankly just glad to find a community of people who's eyes won't glaze over when I talk about this stuff. Thanks... I'll shut up now!

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Hi Patti, I’m glad you’re here. It seems like it takes some time to reverse the effects of the poising but it sounds like you are on the right path. I can relate to much of your experience. Bella

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Welcome aboard,  Patti!  Like you, I've come through years of special dieting and ill advised treatments.  I'm soon to be six months on the zero Vitamin A plan;  remarkable changes came quickly, but it appears that full body healing may be years away.  I'm okay with that though for at least I'm finally on a path leading to better health.   Grant's research and writings, as well as his provision of this forum are an extraordinary gift!   I look to this site (often) for both information and encouragement.   Many thanks to all . . .

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Welcome, I hope that improvements start to show.  Like DWL, I have seen dramatic skin changes in two months on zero vitamin A, but I believe to get to 100% will take months/years in my case.  High dose retinyl palmitate, CLO, and accutane(2 times) are in my past attempts at fixing skin issues.

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Hi Patti

Sounds like it has been a big wake up call for you. Wondering if you are needing some self compassion for past health choices. I can totally relate to this being a "long haul change". I have been low VA for 3 months but have chosen to ease into it as I realise this is going to take time. I have an 11 year old daughter and didn't wish to go intense either. Our symptoms are mild really with me having insomnia, hayfever, vision changes, weight gain and maybe it also relates to other niggly issues. At age 50 some of these are deemed age related however I don't think so. I have just reflected on the journey and have noticed my detox symptoms being disrupted sleep (worse than usual), hayfever, sniffles, raspy throat and then I get better. Some of the symptoms have gone through 3 cycles so far. I am still feeling amazed at how much VA affects and how far off track health can be from it.

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Thanks, everyone.:)  And thanks, "Guest"... yes, I'm sure you're right about the need for self-compassion. I think I had come to a real point of burn-out well before I found this new concept and I was almost resistant to it myself at first. I was like, "No, no, NO!! Not another wacky alternative diet! Arrrrgh!"  Really just didn't have the energy to go down another rabbit hole only to find yet another dead end. But, I gave it a chance and read the book... and it just unfolded before me like only the most pure and profound truths can. I am eternally grateful to Grant, as others have said, for selflessly sharing this information with all of us.

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Hi Patti

This is Mokus who posted re self compassion. Hearing you about the burn out and the challenge, yet sounds like Grant's ebook and the information have been empowering. Now just for the patience.

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Quote from Patti on January 13, 2019, 10:11 am

Thanks, everyone.:)  And thanks, "Guest"... yes, I'm sure you're right about the need for self-compassion. I think I had come to a real point of burn-out well before I found this new concept and I was almost resistant to it myself at first. I was like, "No, no, NO!! Not another wacky alternative diet! Arrrrgh!"  Really just didn't have the energy to go down another rabbit hole only to find yet another dead end. But, I gave it a chance and read the book... and it just unfolded before me like only the most pure and profound truths can. I am eternally grateful to Grant, as others have said, for selflessly sharing this information with all of us.

Oh I very much relate to what you have written here, Patti! ^ I didn’t think I’d ever “diet” again in my entire life, and then I came across Grant’s books. 😋 My mom put me on some wacky diets as a child (hoping to help me with some sensory processing issues I had), but I don’t fault her because she did her best with the knowledge she had. I’m sure your daughter appreciates that you care about her enough to look for answers and try your best to help her. ❤️ Wishing you and your daughter all the best with this approach.