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It's the Microbiome Stupid
It's the Microbiome Stupid
Yes, it is more nuanced than that but the microbiome is the foundation and predictor for how one heals and recovers.
A certain doctor's approach is to heal the liver and the microbiome will sort itself out.
Well, invert that and that is how we make real progress.
I was intrigued by the thread about the microbes plus carnivore diet and watched the video that was linked. I then found out about the SIBO yoghurt that Dr. William Davis was talking about with Eric Berg. Long story short, it made a lot of sense, I like yoghurt and I liked his approach to making real calculated microbiome changes.
It has been 4 weeks and I have made more progress in those 4 weeks than I have ever made with any program. This is after being low Vit A for 5 years. Before these 4 weeks, it was very rough and is insane that I dealt with that situation for that long.
So, I feel that failing to address the microbiome as the foundation is the biggest folly in the healthcare world. Anything that you take and implement is wasted potential and I wish I had known this sooner. It's like adding air fresheners to a septic tank and thinking anything will really change.
What video are you referencing?
I saw plain organic Stoneyfields yogurt fix my son's gut when he was a baby (long ago). (the gut was ruined by antibiotics)
I drink raw milk and I think it helps.
I have seen a few videos here and there of people who ended up getting probiotic "infections", like on the channel "chubby emu" there was a guy whose heart got infected.
It made me wonder if not all the yogurt flora is bueno... or maybe even good flora can get inside you, where it's not supposed to be, and cause issues. By inside you I mean not just in the digestive tract. The digestive tract is sort of "outside you" if you think about it.
We have probably a pound or more of flora in there, by design, and it better be there! and it better be useful and not dangerous.
Another way into this loop is pre-biotics. ie, giving the beneficial bacteria golf courses and condos to live in. I think dairy is good for this, as is that special fiber konjac. I used to talk online with a person who was terribly gluten intolerant and konjac seemed to fix her gut.
Quote from lil chick on January 27, 2026, 5:44 amI saw plain organic Stoneyfields yogurt fix my son's gut when he was a baby (long ago). (the gut was ruined by antibiotics)
I drink raw milk and I think it helps.
I have seen a few videos here and there of people who ended up getting probiotic "infections", like on the channel "chubby emu" there was a guy whose heart got infected.
It made me wonder if not all the yogurt flora is bueno... or maybe even good flora can get inside you, where it's not supposed to be, and cause issues. By inside you I mean not just in the digestive tract. The digestive tract is sort of "outside you" if you think about it.
We have probably a pound or more of flora in there, by design, and it better be there! and it better be useful and not dangerous.
Another way into this loop is pre-biotics. ie, giving the beneficial bacteria golf courses and condos to live in. I think dairy is good for this, as is that special fiber konjac. I used to talk online with a person who was terribly gluten intolerant and konjac seemed to fix her gut.
infections from the microbes used for the "SIBO" yogurt are super super rare and mostly due to severely immunocompromised immune states.
70% of our immune system is in our gut and for a good reason. It is the line of defense against the outside world and trains the body on how to view good vs bad bacteria. The beneficial bacteria have their own properties that they pass along to the host as well as keep the pathogenic ones at bad.
Chronic dysbiosis and resulting systemic inflammation from modern lifestyles fits what we see to a "T". It get's worse as we age, a diet that worked in the past no longer works later on. Some people clean up their diet and everything changes like magic. Someone else tries that and gets poor results if any.
A fault microbiome literally stifles every system in the body. Especially the liver. And that just dominoes.
Prebiotics are good if an ideal situation is present. Turning the tide by dropping weapon caches on a battlefield that either side can pick up will be a long drown out process vs sending in waves after waves via Normandy.
Quote from Armin on January 26, 2026, 7:44 pmIt has been 4 weeks and I have made more progress in those 4 weeks than I have ever made with any program. This is after being low Vit A for 5 years. Before these 4 weeks, it was very rough and is insane that I dealt with that situation for that long.
@armin , if you don't mind me asking, what have you been eating while on your low vit A diet? Have you been using any supplements?
Quote from Armin on January 27, 2026, 8:09 amQuote from Joe2 on January 27, 2026, 2:01 amWhat video are you referencing?
Thank you.
Berg is suspect but that is just me. He seemed to latch on to keto and then later on to knees over toes like 2 years after me. His neurolinguistics is seriously annoying too. Pretty sure that is intentional. Also has to do with his over editing of the videos.
But he does cover some good ideas and details on it. For sure he is still ridiculously wrong on liver and vitamin A and vitamin D. Egregious how gratuitous he is about discussing them. Paul Saladino's results will straighten Eric out soon enough.
William Davis is the guy who saved my day when I started keto. He let me know I blundered by not getting enough sodium in salt to drive my blood pressure back up when I dropped all the phosphorus that I had been getting in the grains I previously ate. I was seriously lightheaded and low blood pressure until he clarified that for me.
Where I question the take on probiotics is the war stance these guys still take with it. Almost like they are avoiding the prospect that ALL biotics are commensal UNTIL they are misplaced and or imbalanced. Examples are streptococcus, heliobacter, even e-coli. These are everywhere including us. Where symptoms come up is where we have imbalances and overgrowths. Even the socalled good bacteria are painful when overgrown. For sure it is a good idea to eat probiotic foods. Betting it does not take more than a tablespoon every day or two to get the job done.
Quote from Navid on January 27, 2026, 9:46 amQuote from Armin on January 26, 2026, 7:44 pmIt has been 4 weeks and I have made more progress in those 4 weeks than I have ever made with any program. This is after being low Vit A for 5 years. Before these 4 weeks, it was very rough and is insane that I dealt with that situation for that long.
@armin , if you don't mind me asking, what have you been eating while on your low vit A diet? Have you been using any supplements?
I've tried all kinds of foods and combinations. Usually some beef or chicken, sourdough bread, beans, white corn chips, mozzarella cheese if I have cheese.
I've taken all kinds of supplements to limited improvement. All the B vitamins, zinc, selenium, molybdenum, inositol, flax seeds, psyllium husk. No results compared to the past month.
Quote from Joe2 on January 27, 2026, 4:17 pmQuote from Armin on January 27, 2026, 8:09 amQuote from Joe2 on January 27, 2026, 2:01 amWhat video are you referencing?
Thank you.
Berg is suspect but that is just me. He seemed to latch on to keto and then later on to knees over toes like 2 years after me. His neurolinguistics is seriously annoying too. Pretty sure that is intentional. Also has to do with his over editing of the videos.
But he does cover some good ideas and details on it. For sure he is still ridiculously wrong on liver and vitamin A and vitamin D. Egregious how gratuitous he is about discussing them. Paul Saladino's results will straighten Eric out soon enough.
William Davis is the guy who saved my day when I started keto. He let me know I blundered by not getting enough sodium in salt to drive my blood pressure back up when I dropped all the phosphorus that I had been getting in the grains I previously ate. I was seriously lightheaded and low blood pressure until he clarified that for me.
Where I question the take on probiotics is the war stance these guys still take with it. Almost like they are avoiding the prospect that ALL biotics are commensal UNTIL they are misplaced and or imbalanced. Examples are streptococcus, heliobacter, even e-coli. These are everywhere including us. Where symptoms come up is where we have imbalances and overgrowths. Even the socalled good bacteria are painful when overgrown. For sure it is a good idea to eat probiotic foods. Betting it does not take more than a tablespoon every day or two to get the job done.
I'm not a fan of Dr. Berg but I pick and choose what I feel is correct from various sources.
Listen to some of William Davis recent videos about dysbiosis, etc. The approach we are taking is to reduce overgrowth, especially, in the small intestine and junction between the small and large intestine. The microbes from the fermented foods don't colonize. They pass through over 2-3 days, producing compounds that kill pathogenic overgrowth and compounds beneficial to the host.
Week 5 and the improvements keep on coming. Can't wait to see what month 2 and 3 look like.
Eczema gone.
Neck pain gone.
Elbow/wrist pain gone.
Hip pain almost gone.
More mental clarity, less need for sleep, more mental resolve, and a general sense of stability and peace that I haven't had in 20+ years.
Just in case ones' may think it's purely immunosuppressive or a "turning the signals off" type of thing, I can confirm that I had multiple spikes in Herx reaction, especially week 1 and week 3. Levels of pain where I could barely bare weight on my left leg at times. Dark thoughts, anxiety, etc. My wife is on week 3 and she had full flu like symptoms from eating a little too much fermented product. Looking forward to her results and journey, but yeah, life changing results, and it tastes good.