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One thing is, and I just checked, dairy fats won't probably go rancid in 30 hours at 80 degrees.   Whew, that is a relief!

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Update

5 weeks in

I ate at least 6 cups of yogurt this weekend. Worked out for real for the first time in 3 years. Played Beat Saber and other active VR games and had a blast. Hip feeling better and just more improvements all around.

An interesting thing has happened the last week. I've started waking up around 720AM every morning, whether I went to bed early or stayed up until 1am the night before. I looked it up and the microbiome dictates circadian rhythm. It's actually bidirectional.

How many problems are really just caused by dysbiosis? 90%?

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Quote from Armin on February 2, 2026, 11:32 am

Update

5 weeks in

I ate at least 6 cups of yogurt this weekend. Worked out for real for the first time in 3 years. Played Beat Saber and other active VR games and had a blast. Hip feeling better and just more improvements all around.

@armin  is this regular whole milk yogurt?  Are you concerned at all about the vit A content?  Have you considered whether your positive results may also be related to a calcium deficiency that the yogurt is helping to correct?

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Quote from Navid on February 2, 2026, 12:54 pm
Quote from Armin on February 2, 2026, 11:32 am

Update

5 weeks in

I ate at least 6 cups of yogurt this weekend. Worked out for real for the first time in 3 years. Played Beat Saber and other active VR games and had a blast. Hip feeling better and just more improvements all around.

@armin  is this regular whole milk yogurt?  Are you concerned at all about the vit A content?  Have you considered whether your positive results may also be related to a calcium deficiency that the yogurt is helping to correct?

It technically is not yogurt but long fermented dairy product. We use half and half as a medium and ferment 3 specific microbes. The Vitamin A content is negligible IMO. Especially when you get to maintenance phase.

I don't think it is related to calcium as I have eaten cheese earlier at various times over the years. 

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Quote from Armin on January 29, 2026, 8:07 am

In case anyone is wondering on how to make it and not search through blogs and videos...

3 strains.

-lactobacillus reuteri

-lactobacillus gasseri 

-baccillus subtilis

 

look up the characteristics of these probiotics. They destroy pathogenic microbes and do all kinds of great things.

 

Fermentation process

ferment the first 2 for 36 hours, the 3rd for 24 hours. I do 3 separate individual batches

temp for first 2 is 100F, temp for 3rd is 95F

I use an instapot with temp customization

1 tablespoon of inulin per quart of product for fermentation

the medium/liquid can be numerous things. most stick with half and half

1 capsule (2 for subtilis product linked below) of probiotic per quart of liquid medium mixed in with inulin.

 

You can use 2 tablespoons from a batch of yogurt as a starter for a subsequent batch in lieu of a probiotic capsule. I usually add 1 capsule for good measure as I tend to create half gallon and full gallon batches.

 

sources for microbes

L reuteri: https://www.oxiceutics.com/products/myreuteri?variant=45917346627811

L gasseri: https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Mercola-Probiotic-Supplement-Regularity/dp/B09CSFTM24?th=1

B Subtilis: https://www.herbsdirect.com/collections/microbiome-labs/products/microbiome-labs-hu58-60-capsules?variant=44413969432818

 

 

 

Thank you for this. This will be the next thing I try. I've been making yogurt again recently from 2% milk in my little home made yogurt maker. Maybe I'll skip the "normal" yogurt culture and just focus on these. 

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Quote from Navid on February 2, 2026, 12:54 pm
Quote from Armin on February 2, 2026, 11:32 am

Update

5 weeks in

I ate at least 6 cups of yogurt this weekend. Worked out for real for the first time in 3 years. Played Beat Saber and other active VR games and had a blast. Hip feeling better and just more improvements all around.

@armin  is this regular whole milk yogurt?  Are you concerned at all about the vit A content?  Have you considered whether your positive results may also be related to a calcium deficiency that the yogurt is helping to correct?

I got caught up in taking what I read and heard from smarter people as gospel, until the great calcium purge, at which point I started doing basic google searches on some of the claims.  1 cup of milk (whole or 2%) contains pretty minimal vitamin A. 

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Quote from Robert on February 4, 2026, 9:48 am
Quote from Armin on January 29, 2026, 8:07 am

In case anyone is wondering on how to make it and not search through blogs and videos...

3 strains.

-lactobacillus reuteri

-lactobacillus gasseri 

-baccillus subtilis

 

look up the characteristics of these probiotics. They destroy pathogenic microbes and do all kinds of great things.

 

Fermentation process

ferment the first 2 for 36 hours, the 3rd for 24 hours. I do 3 separate individual batches

temp for first 2 is 100F, temp for 3rd is 95F

I use an instapot with temp customization

1 tablespoon of inulin per quart of product for fermentation

the medium/liquid can be numerous things. most stick with half and half

1 capsule (2 for subtilis product linked below) of probiotic per quart of liquid medium mixed in with inulin.

 

You can use 2 tablespoons from a batch of yogurt as a starter for a subsequent batch in lieu of a probiotic capsule. I usually add 1 capsule for good measure as I tend to create half gallon and full gallon batches.

 

sources for microbes

L reuteri: https://www.oxiceutics.com/products/myreuteri?variant=45917346627811

L gasseri: https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Mercola-Probiotic-Supplement-Regularity/dp/B09CSFTM24?th=1

B Subtilis: https://www.herbsdirect.com/collections/microbiome-labs/products/microbiome-labs-hu58-60-capsules?variant=44413969432818

 

 

 

Thank you for this. This will be the next thing I try. I've been making yogurt again recently from 2% milk in my little home made yogurt maker. Maybe I'll skip the "normal" yogurt culture and just focus on these. 

It's for sure worth swapping out yogurt cultures for these microbes. Retire the boy scouts and bring in the marines.

 

After reading Grant's new thread, he made a very poignant point. When asked about fiber, he mentioned that fiber can cause potential bacterial overgrowth. I agree. That is why managing the microbiome with half assed measures is so half assed.

When we talk about overgrowth, it is primarily from pathogenic, opportunistic microbes. No one really complains about having too many good guys. 

So, how would one know the makeup of their microbiome without extensive testing and how would one know if the measures were effective? 

Treatments usually consist of herbal or prescriptions antimicrobials. There tends to be a significant relapse rate after treatment. Adding fiber to feed the potential new shift in good/bad bacteria ratio is also a blind endeavor. 

Maybe add a probiotic post treatment. Again, ones have no idea if they are taking effective, viable living microbes at a useful level or if they survive the stomach and make any real impact. Good luck little ones.

Conversely, taking a treatment using a long fermented product with hundreds of billions of verifiably living and communal bacteria with all their postbiotic arsenal rearing to go as one coherent platoon waging war repeatedly until the battle of the bulge is won. Add fiber to strengthen the new arrangement and send in some troops periodically to keep the peace.

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Quote from Robert on February 4, 2026, 9:54 am
Quote from Navid on February 2, 2026, 12:54 pm
Quote from Armin on February 2, 2026, 11:32 am

Update

5 weeks in

I ate at least 6 cups of yogurt this weekend. Worked out for real for the first time in 3 years. Played Beat Saber and other active VR games and had a blast. Hip feeling better and just more improvements all around.

@armin  is this regular whole milk yogurt?  Are you concerned at all about the vit A content?  Have you considered whether your positive results may also be related to a calcium deficiency that the yogurt is helping to correct?

I got caught up in taking what I read and heard from smarter people as gospel, until the great calcium purge, at which point I started doing basic google searches on some of the claims.  1 cup of milk (whole or 2%) contains pretty minimal vitamin A. 

Remind me of the great calcium purge.

I agree, the effects vastly outweigh the minimal vitamin A

Ones can use other mediums as well if they don't want dairy. 

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Quote from Armin on February 4, 2026, 10:13 am
Quote from Robert on February 4, 2026, 9:54 am
Quote from Navid on February 2, 2026, 12:54 pm
Quote from Armin on February 2, 2026, 11:32 am

Update

5 weeks in

I ate at least 6 cups of yogurt this weekend. Worked out for real for the first time in 3 years. Played Beat Saber and other active VR games and had a blast. Hip feeling better and just more improvements all around.

@armin  is this regular whole milk yogurt?  Are you concerned at all about the vit A content?  Have you considered whether your positive results may also be related to a calcium deficiency that the yogurt is helping to correct?

I got caught up in taking what I read and heard from smarter people as gospel, until the great calcium purge, at which point I started doing basic google searches on some of the claims.  1 cup of milk (whole or 2%) contains pretty minimal vitamin A. 

Remind me of the great calcium purge.

I agree, the effects vastly outweigh the minimal vitamin A

Ones can use other mediums as well if they don't want dairy. 

Over in the LYL forum about 6 months ago there was some drama over calcium usage, which is why a lot of the more active members moved to telegram and here. 

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