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Jordan Peterson is very ill: carnivore, pharmaceuticals
We've chatted about Jordan Peterson here before, there is a thread on his daughter's Ted Talk, I see.
Anyways, for those who don't know, Jordan Peterson is a psychologist, professor and online philosopher. The quick recap of his story is that he was put on very addictive psych meds for depression. Then he tried to get off them. Then it almost killed him. So he traveled afar and got put into a coma to get through addiction without it killing him. Then somewhere along the way he took up his daughter's diet of carnivore. For a while he was recovering and seemed better. Now he has fallen ill again, with pneumonia, sepsis an neuro-issues. They are saying it is because of cleaning out his parent's moldy basement.
What do we think about Jordan? Please do refrain from attacks on him, that ain't classy when a person is down.
I will put my own opinion here:
I think probably he needs soluble fiber to detox. Call it the enthusiasm of the newly converted (for me). He probably needs to detox all the Pharma and maybe even vitamin A and other toxins. I remember him once saying he had gum disease and that the carnivore wasn't growing his gums back. I've totally seen gums growing back (although I'm not finished with that epic piece of work needed).
I'm so glad to finally know what was missing with my two vitamin-A toxic cats. (My diagnosis, the vet did not agree.). They did not recover fully after being taken off their high VA diet. I put them on carnivore.. and carnivore has no fiber. I also made them into indoor cats (at about the same time). If they had still been outdoor cats they would have been able to freely choose to eat grass. On his final day of life my orange boy begged so heartbreakingly to get outside, that I relented. He chewed some grass, looked at the sky and died. GRASS... fiber...
Moldy cellar my ass, LOL.
Jordan also got the vax.
Jordan's biggest problem is probably that, as a trained psychologist he had too much trust in Pharma... I've read that just two weeks on that drug he was on...can sign you up for 2 years of withdrawal.
Now, I will give you that when your elimination organs are all detoxed up and damaged....a moldy cellar might be more challenging than for someone who has good elimination organs. Maybe mold *was* involved with what they are calling pneumonia... I've seen with some of our older relatives that being very ill can result in neuro issues (like a sudden temporary onset of dementia and inability to walk that goes away as they recover). He isn't that old, (63) but he has been through so much.
@lil-chick He was masking his health issues by extreme meat only diet. That worked for some time because diet like that would increase stress hormones like crazy and so you feel better. Have more energy, less inflammation as cortisol is anti inflammatory. But because the body is running on emergency mode for so long eventually it will crash.. Watching is videos and what people he is talking to it seems that he just believes keto/low carbers that sugar is the biggest problem. He has basically zero understanding in human biochemistry or diet. He is great example that money or fame are completely useless is you don't know where to look and what to listen..
It is sad because I somewhat like him and I would love to see him really to get deep into health stuff and figure stuff out for himself and by doing that help others as well. But I don't think it is possible. At this stage it would be miracle if he was able to find the right stuff that he needs to get better. He simply doesn't have the time or energy and most importantly he doesn't even think that he should look into something else and not just listen some short minded people who just tell him sugar is bad keep eating meat.. Like her daughter for example.. I know that she is trying to help. But she also doesn't have the best knowledge on this topic and she as well as him are brainwashed with mainstream medical system. Which one of the biggest issues. If you want to get fixed that is the first thing what you need to know. That mainstream medical system and big pharma is not just useless for fixing chronic health issues, but is actually very dangerous to even consider their "products" or protocols/treatments..
I get it not everyone has the luxury just sitting in a room alone in silence for decade to finally figure out what is going on and what next step should be. For famous person like that there has to be so much people giving him crazy advice.
I would give him one advice. You have all the money on the world. Just disappear and let your body relax. You have done good job and your work is out there forever. You don't need to stress your body more.. Because all that pressure to stay relevant and to debate people in front of the world etc. is not helpful at all..
I was reading about a celeb who rescued a cat and his young kids loved the thing. Like many homeless animals it fell seriously ill not long after being rescued (re-feeding problems? Perhaps?). The vet thought it was sick enough to possibly need to be put down. However, the vet offered one idea: Heavy doses of steroids. Why not try it? Maybe the young kids could enjoy their pet a bit longer.
Well, the cat is now as strong as Arnold Schwarzenegger and 2 years into a steroid regimen. Of course the cat is "addicted" to steroids, but who cares at end of life?
I wonder if there would be a case for giving Jordan the drug he is addicted to, if he is just going to die from the wreck it has made of his brain chemicals?
Or heavy steroids?
@jiri , Jordan Peterson did seem "strung out" or "high strung" after his recovery from the coma etc.
This is the media release by his daughter addressing the health issues of Jordan Peterson:
Quote from Jiří on November 9, 2025, 7:05 am@lil-chick He was masking his health issues by extreme meat only diet. That worked for some time because diet like that would increase stress hormones like crazy and so you feel better. Have more energy, less inflammation as cortisol is anti inflammatory. But because the body is running on emergency mode for so long eventually it will crash.. Watching is videos and what people he is talking to it seems that he just believes keto/low carbers that sugar is the biggest problem. He has basically zero understanding in human biochemistry or diet. He is great example that money or fame are completely useless is you don't know where to look and what to listen..
Agree 100% with this paragraph. Many discussions have been going on between the low carbers and high carbers on this forum, Jiri always passionately defending the value of carbs. Keto is stressful. There's a reason why centenarians have a good chunk of carbs in their diet.
I did all meat for exactly two weeks. I couldn't sustain it any longer than that. It was back when I was still doing some workout. Totally plummeted the number of push ups I could do.
Interesting, the family talks about "spiritual attacks," when I understand that Peterson doesn't literally believe in the Bible, but sees it more as a metaphorical expression of human consciousness, totally in the vein of Carl Jung. Maybe he truly has become a believer. Anyway, I'm always very careful with such terms.
Someone once told my sister that she was demon-possessed. She immensely suffered from this unfounded assessment. Who are you to be so spiritually discerning to say such things?
Evangelical Christians can say some wacky things. Usually, there is no need for demons or Satan to have a wicked and deceitful heart. That I know. And whoever is a believer will receive the Holy Spirit.
If memory serves..........?
Peterson started carnivore before Mikhaila. 7 years ago ish. He and his family have lived hardcore pharma life. Mikhaila got ankle replacement surgery both ankles at age 7 for severe arthritis. Lots of pain killers, anti inflammatories, psyche meds and horrible nutrition. Genius stuff until last few years. He and Bret Weinstein promoted together as anti-globalists by Theil (Intellectual Dark Web) technocrat anti-globalist globalists. Both their careers wrecked by far left funders mostly over fraudulent race and gender accusations. Wrecked careers gifted them with new and far better careers.
Both families weathered storms gracefully and fiercely. Weinsteins have been saner emotionally, physically and intellectually. Petersons not so much especially since 10/7/23. Mikhaila sold herself on podcast a variety of ways: relationship expert, carnivore expert, Andrew Tate protector,..... It gets pretty weird. She did have brains enough to get him out of Western medical grip into Russian facility willing to induce coma while withdrawing him from benzos. As he later stated, there is more than a little irony in his addictions given his dissertation is on alcohol addiction and aggression.
He was a staunch peacenik until his infamous "Give em hell" tweet to Bibi. Between his lately less measured public persona and his ongoing pharma dependence, his liver is likely kicking. A number of us sent requests to both him and Mikhaila to look at vA, fiber, charcoal, vD, red light sauna, UVB,....... for at least 3 years. They have knowledge of and the best access to some of the best minds in all sorts of ideas through Rogan, Rhonda Patrick, Shawn Baker, Joe Mercola, Tom Seyfried, Dom D'Agostino, careoncology.com, Joe Tippens, Judy Cho,............
Given how deep into pharma pockets (even embracing covidians) Petersons are, probably dubious that even moving in and living with Karen Hurd could help.
Joe Rogan - Jordan Peterson's Carnivore Diet Cured His Depression?
Jordan Peterson is still an addict | by Peter Miller | Medium
@joe2 you are right. I completely forgot that he was heavy meds user for a long time. That complicates things much more than just unbalanced meat diet..
Some people blame him that he gives advice to others and is addict himself. I don't have problem with it. Because what he is talking about mostly are facts in all kinds of topics, but not about himself. So even if he would be real fuck up in personal life his work that he puts out there is still great and helped A LOT of people..