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Kurtis - Progress Report

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Without going too much into my history here are some benefits i've noticed since being low/no vitamin A for around 6 months, i'm a 21 y/o male and had a childhood/adolescence of high vitamin A intake 

  • General increase in well-being - This is probably the biggest one and hardest to put in words, life feels much easier to deal with, compared to my past
  • No/Low physical pain - When I was at my worst I would ache all over, pain in my joints etc, which only went away when I tried going carnivore, I don't get any random pain when waking up anymore and can endure physical labor often times better than people I work with
  • Sleep - For over a month now I've been consistently sleeping ~8 hours through the night, compared to prior going low A often I would wake up to pee sometimes 3 times in a night
  • Hair - I've been able to grow out my hair, before I would shave/buzz it off because its texture was horrible, like straw. My hairline was also receding.. it's too early to tell for certain but it has definitely slowed and there may be some hair regrowth

 

Things that haven't gone away

  • White tongue/thrush - if anyone has gotten rid of this themselves, let me know
  • Jaundice - my family has Gilbert syndrome, Father, Uncle & Sister have been diagnosed with it, only thing I notice from it is a slightly yellow tinge in the whites of my eyes. (Gilbert syndrome signifies dysfunctional bilirubin metabolism in the liver)
  • Raised lymph nodes on the back of my neck - been this way ever since a doctor put me on heartburn medication that ruined my health roughly 2 years ago, not sure what they signify other than inflammation or some kind of systemic infection(?), haven't been to a doctor since then

General thoughts on the diet: Feels very 'human' for lack of a better word, high vitamin A foods seem unnatural to consume after avoiding them for so long, and I enjoy the quality of life increase this WOE has brought me, will continue eating this way for the foreseeable future

 

My normal diet

  • Bananas
  • Apples/Apple Juice
  • Pears
  • Honey
  • Rice
  • Potatoes - I use to eat potatoes everyday, however I have almost completely lost my appetite for them, therefore I am not forcing myself to eat them right now
  • Pasta
  • Bread
  • Beans (I need to find non-canned sources of beans however because of the plastic contained in cans)
  • Most meat except pork & seafood
  • Mushrooms 

Note on sugar: I think it's best to consume sugary foods like fruits/honey when active, I feel horrible eating them while being sedentary

Supplements - I think supplements in general are a bad idea, however I am currently experimenting with Zinc and Vitamin E, out of the two I think Zinc is the most beneficial

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@kurtis I would be careful with apple juice and honey. They are full of fructose and when it looks like you have liver issues. You should limit your fructose intake to zero basically.. Do some testing ferritin, ceruloplasmin, copper, zinc, liver enzymes, Ha1c, CRP, white blood cells, TSH, free T3... IT looks like you have bad bile production, flow which will result in candida issues(white tonque) how looks your stool? Healthy looking like brown sausage?

Welcome @Kurtis and thank you for putting together this encouraging post!

After eight months on the diet I + husband have seen a lot of various improvements. Only recently however the liver has been unhappy, I think unhappy with too much going on. It is slowly changing and our tongues are not white anymore this week. I think you are only at the start, but you are young and thus have less toxins in your body (apart from those inherited). Plenty of time. I am very happy that your quality of life has improved! Good luck and keep us informed if you can!

I wish you lots of hair and fun! 🙂

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Quote from Jiří on August 18, 2020, 12:03 am

@kurtis I would be careful with apple juice and honey. They are full of fructose and when it looks like you have liver issues. You should limit your fructose intake to zero basically.. Do some testing ferritin, ceruloplasmin, copper, zinc, liver enzymes, Ha1c, CRP, white blood cells, TSH, free T3... IT looks like you have bad bile production, flow which will result in candida issues(white tonque) how looks your stool? Healthy looking like brown sausage?

I was thinking about going zero sugar for a while, my sister has tried and and said she felt good doing it, maybe I'll try it for a month and see how things are from there

I should probably do some blood tests though, I guess it's been a while...

Hi @kurtis,

Thanks for posting your progress report.

RE: lymph nodes on the back of my neck - I too had that condition and it took about 10 months to resolve. But, I'm a lot older than you so you might see that improve sooner.

RE: Feels very 'human' for lack of a better word - I agree, it just seems to be a more natural state of being when the body is truly healthy... but, hard to describe.

 

 

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@kurtis it is not about avoiding all carbs. It is about avoiding fructose which can be burden for the liver in bad shape.. Glucose in form of starches like potatoes, rice etc.. is ok.. I eat sugar only during hard exercise. Because combination of fructose and glucose is good for preventing hypoglycemia due to carb depletion during exercise. But I wouldn't just watch TV show and drink apple juice or eat honey..

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Quote from ggenereux on August 18, 2020, 8:16 am

RE: lymph nodes on the back of my neck - I too had that condition and it took about 10 months to resolve. But, I'm a lot older than you so you might see that improve sooner.

Good to hear, I am hopeful it'll resolve eventually 

 

Quote from Jiří on August 18, 2020, 9:00 am

@kurtis it is not about avoiding all carbs. It is about avoiding fructose which can be burden for the liver in bad shape.. Glucose in form of starches like potatoes, rice etc.. is ok.. I eat sugar only during hard exercise. Because combination of fructose and glucose is good for preventing hypoglycemia due to carb depletion during exercise. But I wouldn't just watch TV show and drink apple juice or eat honey..

I agree 100%

I agree with @jiri that the white thrush on the tongue may be candida related. I would find a way to do a GI panel to test for yeast and bacterial overgrowth. I suggest this test. You will need to put down a doctor that they send the results to.

@mmb3664 it is waste of money, time and energy to test if you have candida overgrowth or something.. It is still just a symptom of other more important issues. Once you fix the cause all minor issues like candida, sibo etc.. will go away.

Quick (roughly) 6 month update

  • Currently eating very low VA, at the moment my diet consists of primarily white rice, beef, bread/pasta, mushrooms, garlic & onions as well as some low VA herbs & spices
  • I'll also occasionally make a smoothie with coconut milk and a banana
  • I drink beer pretty regularly
  • My cooking oil at the moment is coconut oil
  • I don't take any particular supplement regularly, however I do experiment with supplements, usually at most i'll take one for about a week to notice it's effects

In the last 6 months I've been pretty strict with my diet, if I'm cooking & eating for myself I'll never eat a high VA food, however when dining with family and friends I'm not pedantic about consuming VA. For two weeks I was staying and eating with a family who eats the standard high VA diet, so I observed the effects it had on my body, I just generally felt crappy, my skin got very oily & my circulation seemed to get reduced, once I left I recovered pretty quickly.

In my last update I wrote that the main problems I was having was white tongue/thrush, this has reduced by about 80%, however there's still a noticeable amount & my tongue is cracked in places. I still have raised lymph nodes on my neck, good news is they haven't grown larger, nor have any more been raised, bad news is they're still raised, however I believe they have reduced in size by a small margin. I'm not worried as long as they don't grow larger or more pop up. I still get jaundiced/yellow if i'm under heavy physical stress, the doctors say this is a genetic thing (gilbert's syndrome) and is harmless, to me it feels like I have less stress tolerance than what is optimal. I don't expect this to go away, at least not for a very long time.

My sleep continues to be very deep, and I usually fall asleep quickly which is great. my hairline is continuing to recover, however my hair has thinned a little bit, I think this is a temporary thing and I expect to my hair to continue to improve in the future, it stills remains quite soft in texture, compared to on high VA where it was dry like straw. I'm quite resistant to sunburns now, which is great as i'm currently working outdoors in rural Australia. My mental function seems to be improving & I appear to be able to make better decisions, but this could just be my brain still developing as I'm only 21.

Other than that there is not much else to report, there hasn't been as much progress as I expected in the last 6 months, however I am still quite faithful that this is the right approach. I don't really crave high VA foods and I never cared about food variety, but I do miss eating cheeseburgers. 

I agree with Grant that it's imperative that this diet gets out and is known by the general population, I have faith that good ideas always make their way to the surface eventually, however we can speed this process up. Redoing the Wolbach & Howe studies with adequate diets would be a great first step & I would be keen to contribute money to the study costs if Grant started a gofundme or something analogous.

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