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Jiří on December 16, 2021, 6:46 am
I have some blood work results here. Tomorrow I will have also copper/ceruloplasmin and bile acid test results.. Can someone help me understand why my TSH is still so high when free T4 and free T3 looks ok? Anyway my liver has hard times and so does my kindeys. Which is "normal" when liver is under stress kidneys have to do more work.. Also low leukocytes which I expected. Hopefully I don't get covid, because with low WBC count it could end up really bad... I have theory because I suspect copper toxicity( due to past blood tests with crazy high free copper) it can be that this free copper destroys vit C on contact therefore my white blood cells are always low because vit C is needed for WBC production and copper toxicity would also explain high liver enzymes.. Will see tomorrow how the copper will look like..
I have some blood work results here. Tomorrow I will have also copper/ceruloplasmin and bile acid test results.. Can someone help me understand why my TSH is still so high when free T4 and free T3 looks ok? Anyway my liver has hard times and so does my kindeys. Which is "normal" when liver is under stress kidneys have to do more work.. Also low leukocytes which I expected. Hopefully I don't get covid, because with low WBC count it could end up really bad... I have theory because I suspect copper toxicity( due to past blood tests with crazy high free copper) it can be that this free copper destroys vit C on contact therefore my white blood cells are always low because vit C is needed for WBC production and copper toxicity would also explain high liver enzymes.. Will see tomorrow how the copper will look like..
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Jiří on December 16, 2021, 11:50 am
So there is also copper, ceruloplasmin and bile acids. Free copper zero which is good, but low overall again. So I will back up with molybdenum and zinc for sure and retest after couple of weeks again.. Btw look at the reference range for zinc on my previous test. How they can change it so much? That's crazy. It looks like they want us to lower our zinc and become deficient. So we become copper toxic with low testosterone? That's crazy..
sorry for the last photo. I don't know why it's turned like that..
So there is also copper, ceruloplasmin and bile acids. Free copper zero which is good, but low overall again. So I will back up with molybdenum and zinc for sure and retest after couple of weeks again.. Btw look at the reference range for zinc on my previous test. How they can change it so much? That's crazy. It looks like they want us to lower our zinc and become deficient. So we become copper toxic with low testosterone? That's crazy..
sorry for the last photo. I don't know why it's turned like that..
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Jiří on December 16, 2021, 1:08 pm
@daniil I know about this and that is not my case. I never took biotin supplements.. Only the small amounts that is in B complex. But today I started with 1mg capsules.. I wouldn't take more than 5mg and they talk about 10mg or something that's crazy high dose.
@daniil I know about this and that is not my case. I never took biotin supplements.. Only the small amounts that is in B complex. But today I started with 1mg capsules.. I wouldn't take more than 5mg and they talk about 10mg or something that's crazy high dose.
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Jiří on December 16, 2021, 11:50 am
So there is also copper, ceruloplasmin and bile acids. Free copper zero which is good, but low overall again. So I will back up with molybdenum and zinc for sure and retest after couple of weeks again.. Btw look at the reference range for zinc on my previous test. How they can change it so much? That's crazy. It looks like they want us to lower our zinc and become deficient. So we become copper toxic with low testosterone? That's crazy..
sorry for the last photo. I don't know why it's turned like that..
So now your copper status is good ? I have the same amount of ceruloplasmin , but all other params are fine ( liver enzymes , thyroid etc )
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Jiří on December 16, 2021, 11:50 am
So there is also copper, ceruloplasmin and bile acids. Free copper zero which is good, but low overall again. So I will back up with molybdenum and zinc for sure and retest after couple of weeks again.. Btw look at the reference range for zinc on my previous test. How they can change it so much? That's crazy. It looks like they want us to lower our zinc and become deficient. So we become copper toxic with low testosterone? That's crazy..
sorry for the last photo. I don't know why it's turned like that..
So now your copper status is good ? I have the same amount of ceruloplasmin , but all other params are fine ( liver enzymes , thyroid etc )
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Jiří on December 17, 2021, 1:40 am
@r-2 well no free copper in the blood is good, but that lower bound copper in the blood and high liver enzymes with higher urea looks like the liver is full of copper.. I need to simply retest again and see how it looks like if I don't take any copper antagonists. If it goes crazy high again or what.. I was eating a lot of copper from legumes etc.. last month which was probably bad idea.. I will lower copper intake to minimum, stop taking vit C, zinc, molybdenum and retest after couple of weeks.. I would love to do more tests especially for adrenals so cortisol and other hormones etc.. Ideally see that blood work with hair test that is from the same time as well.. But it is so expensive doing tests like that..
@r-2 well no free copper in the blood is good, but that lower bound copper in the blood and high liver enzymes with higher urea looks like the liver is full of copper.. I need to simply retest again and see how it looks like if I don't take any copper antagonists. If it goes crazy high again or what.. I was eating a lot of copper from legumes etc.. last month which was probably bad idea.. I will lower copper intake to minimum, stop taking vit C, zinc, molybdenum and retest after couple of weeks.. I would love to do more tests especially for adrenals so cortisol and other hormones etc.. Ideally see that blood work with hair test that is from the same time as well.. But it is so expensive doing tests like that..
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rockarolla on December 22, 2021, 8:09 am
Your low WBC is mainly due to 2 things:
- increased transformation of monocytes to macrophages (could be due to chronic inflammation aka symptoms); macrophages are tissue-resident so their numbers are not reflected in blood test
- overall less neutrophils (the body downregulates their production to put more resources into monocytes -> macrophages pathway, since the later is more effective)
Your low WBC is mainly due to 2 things:
- increased transformation of monocytes to macrophages (could be due to chronic inflammation aka symptoms); macrophages are tissue-resident so their numbers are not reflected in blood test
- overall less neutrophils (the body downregulates their production to put more resources into monocytes -> macrophages pathway, since the later is more effective)
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rockarolla on December 22, 2021, 8:16 am
.. and relatively elevated BUN(urea) as well as creatinine is due to inflammation too..
next time you may want to check uric acid and ferritin and maybe vit C (out of supplements time) - this will give a better picture
also watch out for the speed of vit D decrease: faster = more inflammation since it is rapidly consumed by immune cells like all other vitamins; overall your vit D may be already too high - I'd personally bound it by 20, max 30 ng/ml
.. and relatively elevated BUN(urea) as well as creatinine is due to inflammation too..
next time you may want to check uric acid and ferritin and maybe vit C (out of supplements time) - this will give a better picture
also watch out for the speed of vit D decrease: faster = more inflammation since it is rapidly consumed by immune cells like all other vitamins; overall your vit D may be already too high - I'd personally bound it by 20, max 30 ng/ml
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