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Paul Saladino pushing VitA hard.
Sally Norton is right to warn about overconsumption of high oxalate foods. Some may benefit from a low oxalate diet as a temporary measure if they have gut issues that can cause oxalate hyperabsorption.
Exogenous dietary oxalate isn't normally a cause of disease though when consumed in ordinary amounts and simply avoiding it will not normally resolve chronic health issues.
This is the oxalate anion:
It's basically two carbon dioxide molecules held together by a single carbon bond.
Oxalate's toxicity is caused by metal chelation. It can inhibit enzymes by forming an ionic bond with a metal in an enzyme.
It's a metabolic waste product produced endogenously by the body every second of every day.
Aside from when it comes to kidney disease, it's not the enemy. Permanent radical dietary change is not normally necessary to improve a health condition or even optimise health. To optimise health with regard to oxalate it's a matter of gently working with our physiology to improve gut and liver health to minimise absorption and synthesis of it.
I have long maintained here that a healthy diet contains every food group but that most calories should come from refined white flour/white rice, sugar/honey and lard/healthy oils. We tend to instinctively select a diet balanced in macronutrients and micronutrients while lower in antinutrients when given the chance. Oxalate containing foods like legumes, whole grains, potatoes and nuts are healthy in moderate amounts. I enjoy these foods but only in conservative amounts.
@frank-2 My grandmother ate like Tim recommends, I know because I did her shopping at the end of her life and I would sit with her and I would ask "what did her family eat when they were young?" It calms me to know that. She lived to 99, and sharp and mobile until the last year.
Of course, she cooked for her husband and he died much younger. He was a truck driver and he drank pretty heavily, smoked a pipe with a fragrance added to the tobacco. I remember once he told me that he liked to apply stain to furniture with his bare hand. :'( Because of this and other things, I believe all toxins matter, so maybe take some of your worry and use the energy to rid yourself of other environmental exposures.
Dr. Tim,
Thank you that makes me feel better. But Dr. Sally says oxalate accumulates quietly over years if you keep eating them, like poison/vitamin A, no? Small amounts all the time make you sick after 10 years and you don't know it. Plus Dr. Sally says oxalates are sharp like spears (raffides) and can damage the gut and make you absorb more, what you call hyperabsorption. Also leaky gut and become autoimune. Are you sure small amounts don't hurt us if they are hard to measure inside our body? How can we know? Lots of people say it hurts them.
If oxalates is carbon dioxide, why does it hurt us? Why not breath it out? Would be better than hurting kidneys, yes? Hydrogen puroxide is basically water but is dangerous for people to drink, no? Similar is different from the same, yes?
I like sugar and honey but doesn't that diet make diabetes and cancer? Dr. Jason Fung is expert on that and Dr. Sally says meat and fat are best. She helped many people heal eating those.
I think Frank is Gadzooks. Regardless, it's a troll account.
Lilchick,
99 is very good! I hope I can live that long. I also had granparents that lived into the 90s. Maybe newer generations are just doomed because of pollution 🙁
For those that don't know Frank is the ghost of a boy Donnie killed in the movie Donnie Darko. He haunts Donnie.
The username frank-2 is a mimic of mine.
Puddleduck,
What do you think of Dr. Sally? How many oxalates do you think is OK to eat? Is poison/vitamin A worse? It is hard to not eat oxalates and also not eat poison/vitamin A at the same time. Even Grant eats oxalates when he eats beans.
Oh, I understand now! I started posting here after wavygravvygazooks left and Dr. Tim thinks I am someone else. I am a Conspiracy Theory! Haha. No, I think somebody else is already Frank and the computer made me Frank-2. I did not choose that. Donnie Darko is my favorite movie, thats why my picture is of Frank from the movie. Funny!