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Persistently bad hair & skin quality
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Jiří on December 19, 2021, 4:59 am
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grapes on December 19, 2021, 2:30 am
For me it was double-edged. I don't get now really awful seb derm, but the one between the eyebrows is still persistent. Overall the skin is less smooth, maybe before the diet retinoids stored in body were doing the same thing as topical cosmetic retinoid products.
More hairloss now, possibly because less rosacea means less blood flow to the face and scalp. I suspect also iron overload from beef could be harmful to hair and skin.
Yeah I don't think it's a good idea eating a lot of red meat every day for years.. There is no need for it during low vit A diet to eat just red meat.. I dropped red meat completely + I take apolactoferrin. My ferritin is like 145 and I would like to have it under 50. SO no more red meat for me at least 6 months heh..
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grapes on December 19, 2021, 2:30 am
For me it was double-edged. I don't get now really awful seb derm, but the one between the eyebrows is still persistent. Overall the skin is less smooth, maybe before the diet retinoids stored in body were doing the same thing as topical cosmetic retinoid products.
More hairloss now, possibly because less rosacea means less blood flow to the face and scalp. I suspect also iron overload from beef could be harmful to hair and skin.
Yeah I don't think it's a good idea eating a lot of red meat every day for years.. There is no need for it during low vit A diet to eat just red meat.. I dropped red meat completely + I take apolactoferrin. My ferritin is like 145 and I would like to have it under 50. SO no more red meat for me at least 6 months heh..
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Jiří on December 19, 2021, 4:59 am
I dropped red meat completely + I take apolactoferrin. My ferritin is like 145 and I would like to have it under 50.
Mine is 200 (around 250 a year ago) Occasional ham and rarely beef since last year. Took one bottle of apolactoferrin pills. Always feel better after blood samples.
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Jiří on December 19, 2021, 4:59 am
I dropped red meat completely + I take apolactoferrin. My ferritin is like 145 and I would like to have it under 50.
Mine is 200 (around 250 a year ago) Occasional ham and rarely beef since last year. Took one bottle of apolactoferrin pills. Always feel better after blood samples.
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Inger on November 28, 2022, 10:39 am
yes I donate blood too. Have donated about 7 times since I realized my ferritine is too high, it was way over 100. I got it down to 30 fast after a couple blood donations and now I donate 4 times a year, as often as I am allowed. Donating always makes me feel great. Getting rid of some vit A too at the same time. I think too much iron is really bad idea.. and i love meat so eating about one pound of red meat or a little more / day. I used to eat more than 1 kg / day but I have reduced it, adding in some starch in the form of home made bread without yeast. So far it seems that I tolerate that pretty well, after some initial itching.
That is funny. My feet used to itch sooo bad in the night after eating bread. But that does not happen anymore.
yes I donate blood too. Have donated about 7 times since I realized my ferritine is too high, it was way over 100. I got it down to 30 fast after a couple blood donations and now I donate 4 times a year, as often as I am allowed. Donating always makes me feel great. Getting rid of some vit A too at the same time. I think too much iron is really bad idea.. and i love meat so eating about one pound of red meat or a little more / day. I used to eat more than 1 kg / day but I have reduced it, adding in some starch in the form of home made bread without yeast. So far it seems that I tolerate that pretty well, after some initial itching.
That is funny. My feet used to itch sooo bad in the night after eating bread. But that does not happen anymore.
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Alex on November 28, 2022, 3:46 pm
My ferritin is 300, I donated blood and didn't feel much different also took apolactoferrin for a year, lots of things can cause elevated ferritin:
"High Ferritin can have many reasons:
Genetic, or part genetic: in hereditary hemochromatosis, relatively easy to prove with a genetic test.
Functional or part functional: bacterial infections often cause ferritin stores to increase, as the body tries to take iron out of traffic to hide from iron-consuming bacteria... Staph being one of the most notorious one. Copper bio-unavailability, as mentioned under
No 3. High molybdenum, which impairs copper function and can lower hemoglobin formation. Manganese bio-unavailability or simple deficiency, as many transmembrane transporter mechanisms for minerals depend on manganese-driven ATPases. Lastly: Low phosphorus, needed for protein formation and needed for energy production, as in cAMP, ADP and ATP.
Dietary or part dietary: looking into the effects of Glyphosates or Organophosphates, on Manganese-availability... and Zinc and iron, but Manganese being preferred "prey" for phosphate groups, I suspect that these herbicides and pesticides interfere with proper distribution of minerals in the body. That they complex these minerals, we know, but what exact ramifications that has, has not yet been described in detail."
My ferritin is 300, I donated blood and didn't feel much different also took apolactoferrin for a year, lots of things can cause elevated ferritin:
"High Ferritin can have many reasons:
Genetic, or part genetic: in hereditary hemochromatosis, relatively easy to prove with a genetic test.
Functional or part functional: bacterial infections often cause ferritin stores to increase, as the body tries to take iron out of traffic to hide from iron-consuming bacteria... Staph being one of the most notorious one. Copper bio-unavailability, as mentioned under
No 3. High molybdenum, which impairs copper function and can lower hemoglobin formation. Manganese bio-unavailability or simple deficiency, as many transmembrane transporter mechanisms for minerals depend on manganese-driven ATPases. Lastly: Low phosphorus, needed for protein formation and needed for energy production, as in cAMP, ADP and ATP.
Dietary or part dietary: looking into the effects of Glyphosates or Organophosphates, on Manganese-availability... and Zinc and iron, but Manganese being preferred "prey" for phosphate groups, I suspect that these herbicides and pesticides interfere with proper distribution of minerals in the body. That they complex these minerals, we know, but what exact ramifications that has, has not yet been described in detail."
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Inger on November 29, 2022, 7:57 am
Did you get your ferritin down? 300 is high.....
How many times did you donate blood, and are you still donating?
I have not taken any blood test for more than a year, I try go by how i feel, and listening to my intuition.. It works pretty well. But one day i will check my ferritin and other markers again. Right now I am a little too busy with work and I am trying out something new for the last months, eating rye/whole spelt/wheat bread with butter and meat. That is about my staple right now. With some Finnish apple thrown in between. But I get a few pimples I think from the apple, or the bread? Otherwise I seem to tolerate it just fine, except when I eat more than one apple I get a little bloated. One apple is fine.
Did you get your ferritin down? 300 is high.....
How many times did you donate blood, and are you still donating?
I have not taken any blood test for more than a year, I try go by how i feel, and listening to my intuition.. It works pretty well. But one day i will check my ferritin and other markers again. Right now I am a little too busy with work and I am trying out something new for the last months, eating rye/whole spelt/wheat bread with butter and meat. That is about my staple right now. With some Finnish apple thrown in between. But I get a few pimples I think from the apple, or the bread? Otherwise I seem to tolerate it just fine, except when I eat more than one apple I get a little bloated. One apple is fine.
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Inger on November 29, 2022, 7:57 am
Did you get your ferritin down? 300 is high.....
How many times did you donate blood, and are you still donating?
I have not taken any blood test for more than a year, I try go by how i feel, and listening to my intuition.. It works pretty well. But one day i will check my ferritin and other markers again. Right now I am a little too busy with work and I am trying out something new for the last months, eating rye/whole spelt/wheat bread with butter and meat. That is about my staple right now. With some Finnish apple thrown in between. But I get a few pimples I think from the apple, or the bread? Otherwise I seem to tolerate it just fine, except when I eat more than one apple I get a little bloated. One apple is fine.
@inger No my latest Blood test for ferritin which showed 300 was at the beginning of October/end of september, I only donated blood once at the end of October, I may do it again but it was a hassle to do for something I didn't really feel any benefits from, (long wait time/long travel time). And you're only allowed to donate blood once every 2 months anyway. Also when my health is not the best it could deplete me of something I actually need, eg: in my blood test end of september my lymphocytes and uric acid were low.
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Inger on November 29, 2022, 7:57 am
Did you get your ferritin down? 300 is high.....
How many times did you donate blood, and are you still donating?
I have not taken any blood test for more than a year, I try go by how i feel, and listening to my intuition.. It works pretty well. But one day i will check my ferritin and other markers again. Right now I am a little too busy with work and I am trying out something new for the last months, eating rye/whole spelt/wheat bread with butter and meat. That is about my staple right now. With some Finnish apple thrown in between. But I get a few pimples I think from the apple, or the bread? Otherwise I seem to tolerate it just fine, except when I eat more than one apple I get a little bloated. One apple is fine.
@inger No my latest Blood test for ferritin which showed 300 was at the beginning of October/end of september, I only donated blood once at the end of October, I may do it again but it was a hassle to do for something I didn't really feel any benefits from, (long wait time/long travel time). And you're only allowed to donate blood once every 2 months anyway. Also when my health is not the best it could deplete me of something I actually need, eg: in my blood test end of september my lymphocytes and uric acid were low.
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