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Potato chips.

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My favorite junk food throughout my life has been potato chips. To an outside observer it might seem like I can't live without them.

When I follow a low vitamin-A diet consisting of white rice, beef, chicken and black beans I develop a strong craving for potato chips.

1. Could it be possible that they contain some nutrient that I'm lacking (iodine maybe??).

2. How much vitamin-A do potato chips contain. Googling has given me conflict information and I don't know what sources to trust.

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It could be potassium. I think white potatoes are pretty low A. If you crave them I’d take it seriously.

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I don't have the definitive answer either but there are lots of conflicting opinions on fats.  Many might consider the fat in the potato chips a problem.    As far as the potatoes themselves -  they are supposed to be peeled (as would be in most chips) and no blemishes or green or sprouting so maybe you can't be sure of the quality of the potatoes in processed and packaged foods.  Maybe see how you do with potatoes fried in butter at home or other fats to experiment how different ones make you feel.   I once ate potatoes everyday about 5 years ago.  I don't remember that well if I peeled them or not.  I often ate them with cheese.  Anyway after a few months of eating them everyday, I started developing very sore feet and when I stopped eating them, my feet got better.  I'm not trying to say that it was all the potatoes fault - could have been that I didn't peel them, or that I ate them with some cheese (and butter) or that I was deficient in something else and high in vA that caused  a problem.

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Quote from Diogenes on January 12, 2019, 5:59 pm

My favorite junk food throughout my life has been potato chips. To an outside observer it might seem like I can't live without them.

When I follow a low vitamin-A diet consisting of white rice, beef, chicken and black beans I develop a strong craving for potato chips.

1. Could it be possible that they contain some nutrient that I'm lacking (iodine maybe??).

2. How much vitamin-A do potato chips contain. Googling has given me conflict information and I don't know what sources to trust.

Tricky question. It could also be that you need more calories overall or salt in your diet. Or fat? Or carbs? It could also be an emotional attachment. What sort of chips did you eat? Plain salty ones (no vit A but may have a small bit of beta carotene from potato) or ones with msg, milk powder and such (possibly vit A/retinoic acid due to milk/cheese and/or betacarotene due to spices)?

My fav foods are chocolate and cookies. Before vit A diet I had fine, dark chocolate daily. It was my passion and we are not talking about any mass produced mainstream chocolate here 😂 (at least that is no longer eating up my budget).

I start craving those if I dont eat enough. I feel that the more starch I eat the more satisfied I feel. Too much sugar makes me feel sluggish. Chocolate I stay away from for now, but cookies I do bake my own. And I do have cookie days. For the fun of it 😁

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What sort of chips did you eat? Plain salty ones (no vit A but may have a small bit of beta carotene from potato) or ones with msg, milk powder and such (possibly vit A/retinoic acid due to milk/cheese and/or betacarotene due to spices)?

Lately I like these the most.

Sourcream and onion has been the flavor I've eaten the most in fact. Sometimes chips by Taffel, Lays or Pringles.

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For me, if I start eating something salty it is very hard for me to stop. I always eat the rice and beef with lots of salt. The only thing I don't eat with salt is oatmeal, but it needs to be sweet.

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Guest above^^

I have been exactly the same since I started. I oversalt because I just crave the salt and I add lots of maple syrup (2tsp)to oatmeal (mind you I drink it with water or coconut water)

Anyways I find the diet very palatable like this. More so than any diet I have tried before and I seem to be making muscle gains

 

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Quote from Diogenes on January 13, 2019, 2:25 am

What sort of chips did you eat? Plain salty ones (no vit A but may have a small bit of beta carotene from potato) or ones with msg, milk powder and such (possibly vit A/retinoic acid due to milk/cheese and/or betacarotene due to spices)?

Lately I like these the most.

Sourcream and onion has been the flavor I've eaten the most in fact. Sometimes chips by Taffel, Lays or Pringles.

Yeah I know of those 🙂 I have a friend who is obsessed with sourcream and onoin chips as well. He doesn't eat them anymore though due to the flavoring containing milk and he is trying this vit a free diet. Funny is he refuse to eat normal salted ones as a substitute as they "taste absolutely nothing "

If you are on a vit a free diet it will probably be wise to stay away from them though due to the milk. Milk also contain retinoic acid which is not shown in any lists. Can't help you with the craving though other than eat more and salt more? 🤔

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You might not be getting enough salt, or fats, or maybe some micronutrient that potato has a lot of. Potato chips should be safe in terms of VA as long as it's just potato, sunflower oil, and salt. But it can also depend on what kind of potato they use, personally I've found some brands are ok for me but other brands give me VA symptoms. I don't eat potato chips often as potatoes are inflammatory in my body but if I tolerated potatoes well I would eat potatoes everyday, but that has nothing to do with VA.

You can also get addicted to the solanine. The chips you posted have taste enhancers which can also be addictive. The chips you posted are not safe in terms of VA as they have milk powder and parsley.

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Potato chips aren't very healthy in large amounts, regardless of the oil. They could produce an inflammatory response because your cells A handful shouldn't be problematic. But If you're finding your craving persists, maybe add in some other foods with more nutrition. Roasted almonds or chestnuts are healthier, and will at least give you some Vitamin E and minerals. Additionally, try adding a tiny amount of dairy. A little goes a long way.

 

Another possibility is that you are craving vegetable oils because of the immunosuppressive effects of their fatty acids. This might feel good at first, but could cause long term problems if consumed in excess.