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quinine, corona, lupus, VA
It appears that quinine has been used for lupus (lupus: another word for high VA?).
On another thread, Rachel mentioned: "Interestingly my mum had lupus vulgaris at about 11 years of age and remembers being given a quinine like drug that turned her skin orange (the Dr's warned that would happen). Quinine is one of the drugs Garrett Smith warns about impeding VA detox pathways. My mum also has sun allergy and my sister developed it in her late teens. I guess all that really matters is resolving the health issues I now have, but I like to make sense of the overall picture where I can."
Interesting that Dr Garrett smith is against quinine (? I don't follow him, just going by this quote above ?) .. makes me think it must stir VA up, as does the orange skin effect!
It also appears that quinine drugs are being given (with good effect according to some?) in Covid 19.
Grant has suggested (in his blog post) that high VA adds to the problems with Covid 19. This article suggests a mechanism for how the quinine helps (has to do with solving the fact that the virus disconnects iron from the red blood cells, creating a low oxygen situation)
This study from China seems to back up the info about the iron
What's this porphyrin stuff? I think you study readers will know. It's over my pay grade, LOL 🙂
Just wanted to point out the interesting intersections here. Gosh my keyboard is giving me fits here, hope you can read it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinchonism
"Signs and symptoms of mild cinchonism (which may occur from standard therapeutic doses of quinine) include flushed and sweaty skin, ringing of the ears (tinnitus), blurred vision, impaired hearing, confusion, reversible high-frequency hearing loss, headache, abdominal pain, rashes, drug-induced lichenoid reaction (lichenoid photosensitivity),[1] vertigo, dizziness, dysphoria, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. "
Dr Garrett: "Now, I'm going to suggest that some anti-malarial drugs that have a large history of causing mental issues--like schizophrenia--likely gain their effectiveness against malaria by raising the Poison/"Vitamin A" in the body, which kills the malaria parasite along with causing Poison/"Vitamin A" toxicity! Will I provide a trail you can follow to this conclusion? If you know me at all, of course I will!
Interesting. And I don't post these things to scare you entirely away from quinine. In fact, I often think that the idea with things that "stir up" is to do them in small amounts on purpose.
That article on Covid is a nice find, @lil-chick . Strangely it looks like it was unpublished. For anecdote, in my teens I have been treated several times with chloroquine for malaria, with no adverse effects. It is no longer used though in that country today as plasmodium have acquired resistance to it.
When I ruminate on these ideas, I keep thinking about how high iron seems to go along with the high VA.
Do we know more about why this is, guys?
Could the supposed problems with iron not picking up oxygen in the lungs (which is discussed in the links in my OP) be about VA coming to the defense, and not directly from the disease?
Iron is the other thing that I watch for like a hawk and that is added to so many things (anything with non-organic flour, for instance) hmmm
I was reading about how the wild herb feverfew is used to treat migraines (which I now think of as VA related). It turns out that it contains some quinine. Interesting. Dr. G. says maybe anti-malarials "raise VA" (and that is why they work). So, why are they thought of to help things like lupus and migraine at all? And it does seem to be known they can exacerbate or cause new issues. Perhaps they stir the pot. Perhaps the dose must be carefully regulated. Lots of research needed.
"Tanacetum parthenium, known as feverfew, is a flowering plant in the daisy family, Asteraceae. It is a traditional medicinal herb that is used commonly to prevent migraine headaches. "
"Supposedly in World War I a shortage of quinine, extracted from the bark of a tropical tree, was feared so leaves of this plant were stockpiled in anticipation of a need that never materialized. The wild quinine name seems to have originated about this time, supplanting the feverfew name."