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Serious start:11 September 2019
Quote from Beata on September 24, 2019, 3:24 pmI am doing very well. I am AMAZED about the change in my appetite. I eat - I feel satiated for at least 4 hours - I get hungry - I eat.
Compared to: I eat and I am hungry 10 minutes after the meal. I look at the clock waiting for the next meal - feeling hungry.
I think that this is an “odd improvement” and no-one would ever connect it to vitamin A. I am grateful and relieved from a lifetime of hunger in-spite of eating high quality, “healthy” food.
I started to experience rather unpleasant back pain. It is a deep pain in the kidneys’s area. An aspirin seems to take it away for about 8 hours. I am not sure if anyone else experienced this symptom and if it is connected to vitamin A.
My diet at present consists of congee with beef, bamboo shoots, wood ear, some white corn tortilla fried in coconut oil, apple sauce and apple juice, coffee, cocoa. I love my food and do not get tired of it. I also have potatoes and chocolate from time to time.
Supplements are vitamin C, mito-copper, occasional vitamin K, clay, progesterone, pregnenolone and my regular meds: liothyronine.
I am doing very well. I am AMAZED about the change in my appetite. I eat - I feel satiated for at least 4 hours - I get hungry - I eat.
Compared to: I eat and I am hungry 10 minutes after the meal. I look at the clock waiting for the next meal - feeling hungry.
I think that this is an “odd improvement” and no-one would ever connect it to vitamin A. I am grateful and relieved from a lifetime of hunger in-spite of eating high quality, “healthy” food.
I started to experience rather unpleasant back pain. It is a deep pain in the kidneys’s area. An aspirin seems to take it away for about 8 hours. I am not sure if anyone else experienced this symptom and if it is connected to vitamin A.
My diet at present consists of congee with beef, bamboo shoots, wood ear, some white corn tortilla fried in coconut oil, apple sauce and apple juice, coffee, cocoa. I love my food and do not get tired of it. I also have potatoes and chocolate from time to time.
Supplements are vitamin C, mito-copper, occasional vitamin K, clay, progesterone, pregnenolone and my regular meds: liothyronine.
Quote from Beata on September 24, 2019, 3:29 pm@diogenes,
Since implementing the diet low in vitamin A, I stopped experiencing constant hunger. For the first time in my life I am staying satiated after the meal for at least 4 hours. I am not sure how this can be explained.
Since implementing the diet low in vitamin A, I stopped experiencing constant hunger. For the first time in my life I am staying satiated after the meal for at least 4 hours. I am not sure how this can be explained.
Quote from Orion on September 25, 2019, 4:42 amGlad to hear things are changing for the better mostly! One of Grants main issues was with kidneys, so that pain could be related to VA coming out.
Glad to hear things are changing for the better mostly! One of Grants main issues was with kidneys, so that pain could be related to VA coming out.
Quote from Beata on September 25, 2019, 9:23 amThank you, Orion. It is a slow process but not at all unpleasant.
I am still investigating the back pain. I am considering the fact that it could be related to adrenals and my thyroid treatment with Liothyronin (T3). I am starting a circadian T3 therapy to strengthen the adrenals. It is possible that vitamin A is also involved. Never a dull moment!
Thank you, Orion. It is a slow process but not at all unpleasant.
I am still investigating the back pain. I am considering the fact that it could be related to adrenals and my thyroid treatment with Liothyronin (T3). I am starting a circadian T3 therapy to strengthen the adrenals. It is possible that vitamin A is also involved. Never a dull moment!
Quote from Beata on September 26, 2019, 3:09 amI know that I am still very new at low vitamin A diet. Although September was my serious start, I made several attempts at it couple of months prior and only a bit of cheese was the item with Vitamin A. So, I could say that I have been at it for several months.
Today I want to moan as I went to bed having bone pain in my lower back and legs. I woke up with pain in my lover back and some in my legs and feet. I don’t know if some detox is happening or if this is something else. I wonder what detox symptoms others have had.
I am so determined to go on that no amount of pain will stop me. But misery loves company so I wonder who had pain (that is now gone).
I know that I am still very new at low vitamin A diet. Although September was my serious start, I made several attempts at it couple of months prior and only a bit of cheese was the item with Vitamin A. So, I could say that I have been at it for several months.
Today I want to moan as I went to bed having bone pain in my lower back and legs. I woke up with pain in my lover back and some in my legs and feet. I don’t know if some detox is happening or if this is something else. I wonder what detox symptoms others have had.
I am so determined to go on that no amount of pain will stop me. But misery loves company so I wonder who had pain (that is now gone).
Quote from DWL on September 26, 2019, 5:57 amQuote from Beata on September 26, 2019, 3:09 amI know that I am still very new at low vitamin A diet. Although September was my serious start, I made several attempts at it couple of months prior and only a bit of cheese was the item with Vitamin A. So, I could say that I have been at it for several months.
Today I want to moan as I went to bed having bone pain in my lower back and legs. I woke up with pain in my lover back and some in my legs and feet. I don’t know if some detox is happening or if this is something else. I wonder what detox symptoms others have had.
I am so determined to go on that no amount of pain will stop me. But misery loves company so I wonder who had pain (that is now gone).
Lowering Vitamin A gave me excruciating bone pain that moved from hip, to thigh, to knees, to back and ribs, and to neck and shoulders, then would return to various locations with no rhyme that I could solve. Without looking back at my journal, I'm thinking that I no longer noticed this pain around months 7-9 (14+ now). I persevered with low Vitamin A foods, took minimal aspirin, eased-up on rebounding and hoped that relief would come. This was one of my most worrisome detox symptoms.
I hope your pain is detox related; I considered seeing my doctor over this issue, but it happened that the pain would subside for a bit, so I'd reconsider. Be vigilant and take care.~dl
Quote from Beata on September 26, 2019, 3:09 amI know that I am still very new at low vitamin A diet. Although September was my serious start, I made several attempts at it couple of months prior and only a bit of cheese was the item with Vitamin A. So, I could say that I have been at it for several months.
Today I want to moan as I went to bed having bone pain in my lower back and legs. I woke up with pain in my lover back and some in my legs and feet. I don’t know if some detox is happening or if this is something else. I wonder what detox symptoms others have had.
I am so determined to go on that no amount of pain will stop me. But misery loves company so I wonder who had pain (that is now gone).
Lowering Vitamin A gave me excruciating bone pain that moved from hip, to thigh, to knees, to back and ribs, and to neck and shoulders, then would return to various locations with no rhyme that I could solve. Without looking back at my journal, I'm thinking that I no longer noticed this pain around months 7-9 (14+ now). I persevered with low Vitamin A foods, took minimal aspirin, eased-up on rebounding and hoped that relief would come. This was one of my most worrisome detox symptoms.
I hope your pain is detox related; I considered seeing my doctor over this issue, but it happened that the pain would subside for a bit, so I'd reconsider. Be vigilant and take care.
~dl
Quote from lil chick on September 26, 2019, 7:05 amThis is such an excellent post DWL, to stay the course. When it works it takes time. I suppose that is one of the reasons why this cure was so unknown.
I compared pics of my face today at 4 months with pics of my face nearer the beginning and today my face doesn't look very much better hahaha. It feels better though, to the touch. But it it isn't "fixed". However, I've had this facial problem for maybe 40 years and consider it to be "auto immune" so why would it fix overnight?
The experiment goes on.
This is such an excellent post DWL, to stay the course. When it works it takes time. I suppose that is one of the reasons why this cure was so unknown.
I compared pics of my face today at 4 months with pics of my face nearer the beginning and today my face doesn't look very much better hahaha. It feels better though, to the touch. But it it isn't "fixed". However, I've had this facial problem for maybe 40 years and consider it to be "auto immune" so why would it fix overnight?
The experiment goes on.
Quote from hillcountry on September 26, 2019, 7:51 amSorry to hear of your pain Beata. I had some pretty serious heel-bone pain for a few years prior to detox, where a slight bump on a chair leg would just hurt like crazy. It has almost completely resolved and only just lately surfaced a little bit, maybe due to a lot of walking. I'm at the one-year mark of very low-A intake.
Sorry to hear of your pain Beata. I had some pretty serious heel-bone pain for a few years prior to detox, where a slight bump on a chair leg would just hurt like crazy. It has almost completely resolved and only just lately surfaced a little bit, maybe due to a lot of walking. I'm at the one-year mark of very low-A intake.
Quote from hillcountry on September 26, 2019, 7:57 amDWL - your experience sounds like the makings of a good Ron Howard movie - I can't imagine going through that for months - glad to hear it has finally passed - I wonder how common it is out there in toxic-land - did you have any pain in bones prior to detox?
DWL - your experience sounds like the makings of a good Ron Howard movie - I can't imagine going through that for months - glad to hear it has finally passed - I wonder how common it is out there in toxic-land - did you have any pain in bones prior to detox?
Quote from DWL on September 26, 2019, 3:04 pmQuote from lil chick on September 26, 2019, 7:05 amThis is such an excellent post DWL, to stay the course. When it works it takes time. I suppose that is one of the reasons why this cure was so unknown.
I compared pics of my face today at 4 months with pics of my face nearer the beginning and today my face doesn't look very much better hahaha. It feels better though, to the touch. But it it isn't "fixed". However, I've had this facial problem for maybe 40 years and consider it to be "auto immune" so why would it fix overnight?
The experiment goes on.
Thanks, lil chick, and yes, it appears that I'll be detoxing Vitamin A for a long time. Even though my health is improving at a snail's pace, I'm pleased that it continues to improve.
Hoping you see skin improvement soon, ~dl
Quote from lil chick on September 26, 2019, 7:05 amThis is such an excellent post DWL, to stay the course. When it works it takes time. I suppose that is one of the reasons why this cure was so unknown.
I compared pics of my face today at 4 months with pics of my face nearer the beginning and today my face doesn't look very much better hahaha. It feels better though, to the touch. But it it isn't "fixed". However, I've had this facial problem for maybe 40 years and consider it to be "auto immune" so why would it fix overnight?
The experiment goes on.
Thanks, lil chick, and yes, it appears that I'll be detoxing Vitamin A for a long time. Even though my health is improving at a snail's pace, I'm pleased that it continues to improve.
Hoping you see skin improvement soon, ~dl