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The liver and toxins
Quote from Guest on February 12, 2019, 10:59 amI just read a post on the Ray Peat forum about how the liver only stores things the body needs - or something to that effect. And from what I've read, there are no known toxins stored in the liver. The liver can be damaged by toxins but it doesn't store them, fat on the otherhand does store toxins. So is this strong evidence that vitamin A is not a toxin? Or is there another explanation as to why vitamin A would be the only toxin stored there other than it can be released when infected with measles etc...? Or is that good enough of an explanation to you all? Or do all the sources have it wrong and toxins, other than vitamin A, are found in livers?
To me, vitamin A is a toxin but I like to defend my positition to others, and with this aspect I feel weak on.
I just read a post on the Ray Peat forum about how the liver only stores things the body needs - or something to that effect. And from what I've read, there are no known toxins stored in the liver. The liver can be damaged by toxins but it doesn't store them, fat on the otherhand does store toxins. So is this strong evidence that vitamin A is not a toxin? Or is there another explanation as to why vitamin A would be the only toxin stored there other than it can be released when infected with measles etc...? Or is that good enough of an explanation to you all? Or do all the sources have it wrong and toxins, other than vitamin A, are found in livers?
To me, vitamin A is a toxin but I like to defend my positition to others, and with this aspect I feel weak on.
Quote from somuch4food on February 12, 2019, 11:23 amI saw the post on the Ray Peat forum too.
I found an article comparing the liver to a chemical processing plant which I find accurate: https://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-the-liver-store-toxins/
The liver does contain many substances (minerals, heavy metals, vitamins, toxins...) that will be metabolized (converted to a more useful or less dangerous compound). The post above mentions that many heavy metals as well as aflatoxin do find their way into the liver if there is a source in the diet or the environment.
I saw the post on the Ray Peat forum too.
I found an article comparing the liver to a chemical processing plant which I find accurate: https://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-the-liver-store-toxins/
The liver does contain many substances (minerals, heavy metals, vitamins, toxins...) that will be metabolized (converted to a more useful or less dangerous compound). The post above mentions that many heavy metals as well as aflatoxin do find their way into the liver if there is a source in the diet or the environment.
Quote from Guest on February 12, 2019, 12:38 pmHello Guest,
RE: "And from what I've read, there are no known toxins stored in the liver. "
Vitamin A is a toxin. There are many studies where animals have been quickly and directly poisoned to death with it. It's happened in humans too.
The liver does store vitamin A; that is just a simple fact.
Therefore, the liver does store toxins.
I hope that helps clarify it.
Grant
Hello Guest,
RE: "And from what I've read, there are no known toxins stored in the liver. "
Vitamin A is a toxin. There are many studies where animals have been quickly and directly poisoned to death with it. It's happened in humans too.
The liver does store vitamin A; that is just a simple fact.
Therefore, the liver does store toxins.
I hope that helps clarify it.
Grant
Quote from Guest on February 12, 2019, 1:38 pmQuote from Guest on February 12, 2019, 12:38 pmHello Guest,
RE: "And from what I've read, there are no known toxins stored in the liver. "
Vitamin A is a toxin. There are many studies where animals have been quickly and directly poisoned to death with it. It's happened in humans too.
The liver does store vitamin A; that is just a simple fact.
Therefore, the liver does store toxins.
I hope that helps clarify it.
Grant
I get that reasoning. Before somuch4food's reply it was seeming like vitamin A was the only toxin stored in the liver which didn't make much sense to me.
Quote from Guest on February 12, 2019, 12:38 pmHello Guest,
RE: "And from what I've read, there are no known toxins stored in the liver. "
Vitamin A is a toxin. There are many studies where animals have been quickly and directly poisoned to death with it. It's happened in humans too.
The liver does store vitamin A; that is just a simple fact.
Therefore, the liver does store toxins.
I hope that helps clarify it.
Grant
I get that reasoning. Before somuch4food's reply it was seeming like vitamin A was the only toxin stored in the liver which didn't make much sense to me.