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Tilting's progress.. red, burning, itchy rashes.
Hello all. I'm looking for advice, insight, experience- whatever you could offer.
About three years ago, I took a single round of accutane as a 23 year old.. During those months, my very first bout of what I assume to be eczema, popped up. Steroid cream recovered it quickly. These happened occasionally during the course, and occasionally after. The following years I ate a diet high in dairy, eggs, fruits, and generally high vitamin a foods. Now, three years later, the rashes have grown to be constant, and severe. Mainly burning, but some itching and peeling too. Primarily in my armpits, around my neck, and on my chest. If left untreated, the rashes can get to the point where they look like 2nd degree burns. The only treatment they respond to is the use of steroid creams - but from my understanding, that only perpetuates the problem because of the vitamin a like compounds of the creams. I have been following a low-vit a diet for almost a month now but haven't seen much progress. Constant travel for work makes it very difficult to be strict but I'm doing my best and getting better. I'm also taking activated charcoal daily and during any meals I perceive there to be a higher-than-low vitamin a content.
A question for those who have had success or have insight on skin issues:
Should I give up steroid creams cold turkey? And creams/moisturizer in general? How do commercial creams and body play into the Grant's vitamin a theory? I can't imagine dropping them, because it seems like my skin would literally burn off if I did. But if it's the vitamin a like compounds in the creams that is holding me back from seeing progress with my diet, I would give it a fair attempt. I also use MCT oil and vaseline.
I have many pictures of my skin, but they're very graphic. If it's helpful to see them, I will post. Regardless, I'll continue to update here with my progress and questions. Would love to chat to others who came to the diet primarily for skin concerns.
Thanks for your time
//t
Hey Tilting,
I suspect the skin will flare up quite a bit in the coming months, especially the lower in VA intake you go. The lower you go in intake, the more VA is released to excrete, to excrete it is turned in active VA; retinoic acids (accutane is one version created in the process). You could probably continue to use the steroid creams, but very sparely. Eventually you should get to a point where the flares calm down and you can throw the creams in the garbage. Seems some people see quick improvements, then it takes a more month to month timing for results.
One of Grant's main issues was eczema.
Good Luck Tilting, hang in there
Quote from tilting on July 20, 2019, 4:57 amShould I give up steroid creams cold turkey?
I did that, and I think it was a big mistake. I had a massive flare-up. I've read other accounts of the same thing happening to people who went off cold-turkey too. Here's one:
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/15/steroid-cream-addiction_n_7236986.html
Grant
Quote from tilting on July 20, 2019, 4:57 amHello all. I'm looking for advice, insight, experience- whatever you could offer.
I suggest you invest $40 is Garrett Smith's vit-A detox program (nutritionrestored.com). He has a simple recipe for a detox bath that might help your skin a lot. He also has lists of foods that are OK to eat and ones that are not OK to eat, which will help you eat low VA when on the road. (My advice: when in doubt eat beef or chicken with rice or potatoes.)
My daughter had severe eczema, and after 8 months on low VA diet her eczema has reduced to moderate. Much improved, but slow healing. We use a version of steroid ointment that only has 2 ingredients (the active steroid and petrolatum). This seems to work best as the "creams" have other problematic ingredients.
Best of luck!
Quote from tilting on July 20, 2019, 4:57 amHello all. I'm looking for advice, insight, experience- whatever you could offer.
About three years ago, I took a single round of accutane as a 23 year old.. During those months, my very first bout of what I assume to be eczema, popped up. Steroid cream recovered it quickly. These happened occasionally during the course, and occasionally after. The following years I ate a diet high in dairy, eggs, fruits, and generally high vitamin a foods. Now, three years later, the rashes have grown to be constant, and severe. Mainly burning, but some itching and peeling too. Primarily in my armpits, around my neck, and on my chest. If left untreated, the rashes can get to the point where they look like 2nd degree burns. The only treatment they respond to is the use of steroid creams - but from my understanding, that only perpetuates the problem because of the vitamin a like compounds of the creams. I have been following a low-vit a diet for almost a month now but haven't seen much progress. Constant travel for work makes it very difficult to be strict but I'm doing my best and getting better. I'm also taking activated charcoal daily and during any meals I perceive there to be a higher-than-low vitamin a content.
A question for those who have had success or have insight on skin issues:
Should I give up steroid creams cold turkey? And creams/moisturizer in general? How do commercial creams and body play into the Grant's vitamin a theory? I can't imagine dropping them, because it seems like my skin would literally burn off if I did. But if it's the vitamin a like compounds in the creams that is holding me back from seeing progress with my diet, I would give it a fair attempt. I also use MCT oil and vaseline.
I have many pictures of my skin, but they're very graphic. If it's helpful to see them, I will post. Regardless, I'll continue to update here with my progress and questions. Would love to chat to others who came to the diet primarily for skin concerns.
Thanks for your time
//t
hey tilting don"t get fear of steroid your body have miracle healing abilities....i am researching about skin issues and other diseases for years to find the way to healing,i know following strict diet in travelling is not possible but let me give you some ideas to stay in diet to get low vit A......After studying lot of eczema people healing stories i have some data......this is my diet
Body need all three :Carbs,Protein,Fat without three you cant heal
keep carbs -30%,protein-35%- fat-35% this propotion varies according to ones own need but don ot make high carb diet
Carbs:rice(brown rice is best or white rice),Fruits(low vit A furits :pineapple,pears,Pomegranate,gooseberry,guava,grape,blueberries,cucumber(less in vit A)
Vegetables:cabbage,cauliflower,kidney beans(Any low vit A veg){keep veg moderate not much}
Protein:organic meats anything u like lamb,chicken,beef
Fat:coconut milk fresh,virgin coconut oil,virgin olive oil
salt for iodine
sunflower seed for vitamin E
Add:garlic,Curcumin,ginger,onion(donot take it lot)
These are some foods it will keep you in low vit A and it have enough vitamins minerals and fat
For calcium some using organic eggs shell
Drink enough water
BIG NO FOR :All fortified foods-Gluten grains,dairy(if u are allergic and for maintain low vit A),junk foods,Avoid PUFA
Do some exercise like stretch to keep Lymphatic system to get clean
And try to do Breathing exercise
i hope this will help you .... 🙂 if you have any doubt ask me
Peace begins within