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Which type of beans and lentils are Permissible to eat

Hi , 

I think It would be good to have a list of beans and lentils that anyone can eat , So far I have tried the following 

1 : Brown Lentils -- Bad reaction 

2 : Pink lentils -- Bad reaction 

3 : Black Turtle Beans -- Tolerated well 

4 : Red Kidney beans -- Bad reaction 

5 : Urad Dal / White lentils -- Tolerated well 

 

have any of you guys tried black-eyed pea, black soy beans, cannellini beans, Lima Beans or Light speckled kidney bean is also called LSKB, pinto bean.

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I do a mix of black turtle and black-eyed, and seem to tolerate them well.  I do use Lima beans too, but they don't digest as well.

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Quote from r on September 14, 2020, 1:50 am

Hi , 

I think It would be good to have a list of beans and lentils that anyone can eat , So far I have tried the following 

1 : Brown Lentils -- Bad reaction 

2 : Pink lentils -- Bad reaction 

3 : Black Turtle Beans -- Tolerated well 

4 : Red Kidney beans -- Bad reaction 

5 : Urad Dal / White lentils -- Tolerated well 

 

have any of you guys tried black-eyed pea, black soy beans, cannellini beans, Lima Beans or Light speckled kidney bean is also called LSKB, pinto bean.

cc @salt

There is a paper where they measured the carotenoid content in various beans but I don't have it on hand. I think black turtle beans, cannelini beans, and white lima beans (but not green) have non-significant levels of carotenoids. Urad dal has a little more but still very little. I think the other ones you listed have more, too much. I think you should trust your own body and its reactions so you could experiment with the other ones if you wish, just make sure to be very very strict on the days preceding the food test, and only eat things that you know are extremely low in VA.

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How about black eyed pea / beans  ?

Quote from salt on September 16, 2020, 1:48 pm
Quote from r on September 14, 2020, 1:50 am

Hi , 

I think It would be good to have a list of beans and lentils that anyone can eat , So far I have tried the following 

1 : Brown Lentils -- Bad reaction 

2 : Pink lentils -- Bad reaction 

3 : Black Turtle Beans -- Tolerated well 

4 : Red Kidney beans -- Bad reaction 

5 : Urad Dal / White lentils -- Tolerated well 

 

have any of you guys tried black-eyed pea, black soy beans, cannellini beans, Lima Beans or Light speckled kidney bean is also called LSKB, pinto bean.

cc @salt

There is a paper where they measured the carotenoid content in various beans but I don't have it on hand. I think black turtle beans, cannelini beans, and white lima beans (but not green) have non-significant levels of carotenoids. Urad dal has a little more but still very little. I think the other ones you listed have more, too much. I think you should trust your own body and its reactions so you could experiment with the other ones if you wish, just make sure to be very very strict on the days preceding the food test, and only eat things that you know are extremely low in VA.

 

don't know if the cowpeas they're talking about in this article is the same cowpeas as black eyed peas

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29699675/

https://scihub.wikicn.top/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29699675/

 

 

3.8 Carotenoids composition
The HPLC chromatograms of mixed carotenoid standards (lutein and zeaxanthin) and
mung bean (No. 10) lipophilic extract are shown in Figure 4. The carotenoids content of the
legumes was shown in Table 9. In this study, eight lutein and zeaxanthin isomers were found
in tested legumes. The two major peaks in the extract were identified as all-trans-lutein and
all-trans-zeaxanthin. Red kidney bean and lentils presented the highest carotenoids content,
8.29-20.95 μg/g and 4.53-21.34 μg/g, respectively, followed by black soybean (4.41-6.09 μg/g)
and cowpea (6.62-9.46 μg/g). But the carotenoids in mung bean and white kidney bean were
very low, with respect content of 0.03-0.07 μg/g and 0.05-0.25 μg/g.
In conclusion, 8 lutein and zeaxanthin isomers were found in tested legumes, and
all-trans-lutein and all-trans-zeaxanthin were two major types of carotenoids in tested
legumes.

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I don't trust their mung bean reading. All of this is so complicated and further complicated by the fact that carotenoid content varies depending on how mature the seed is, cultivar, how much light it has been exposed to etc.

 

Also that's a chinese study and unfortunately the English translation seems to be incomplete, misisng some tables etc. I wish I spoke Chinese and could find and read the original

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cowpea (6.62-9.46 μg/g)     -->    662-946 µg / 100g    

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Quote from salt on September 18, 2020, 4:24 pm

cowpea (6.62-9.46 μg/g)     -->    662-946 µg / 100g    

Thank you so much , I. think all legumes are high in lutein and zeaxanthin , I react well with turtle beans and white cannellini beans 

I did some investigation to see what the values of lutein is in different types of bean. I found this paper (full text available online), which seems to show that for most beans (not lentils), the level of lutein is quite low.

In all beans in this study, the level of lutein was less than 1mcg/g of cooked beans for all the beans they tested.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0963996924010056

 

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Here's some research on lutein content of lentils. Looks to be about 10 mcg/g.

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4395/11/6/1154

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