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White tounge
Quote from Liz on December 16, 2018, 12:18 amHi everyone,
So my mother has been on a low vit a diet now for a week I believe, and she told me today that her white coating is gone and she no longer have to brush her tounge. Sometimes it was so thick it looked hairy and she could grab it with her fingers. Two days ago she noticed it had disappeared.
Has anyone else experienced anything similar? And does anyone have any explanation to how a coated tounge is related to vit A? I mean she has had this a VERY long time. And she has tried so many different things to get rid of it and now it is just gone.
Hi everyone,
So my mother has been on a low vit a diet now for a week I believe, and she told me today that her white coating is gone and she no longer have to brush her tounge. Sometimes it was so thick it looked hairy and she could grab it with her fingers. Two days ago she noticed it had disappeared.
Has anyone else experienced anything similar? And does anyone have any explanation to how a coated tounge is related to vit A? I mean she has had this a VERY long time. And she has tried so many different things to get rid of it and now it is just gone.
Quote from Guest on December 16, 2018, 1:30 amI usually get a white lounge after drinking milk. The same is with processed milk products, but there i tolerate a bigger amount. I guess it's a sign of bad digestion. Did your mother drank a low of milk or ate dairy before the low VA diet?
I usually get a white lounge after drinking milk. The same is with processed milk products, but there i tolerate a bigger amount. I guess it's a sign of bad digestion. Did your mother drank a low of milk or ate dairy before the low VA diet?
Quote from Guest on December 16, 2018, 1:56 amSounds like it could have been oral thrush? Perhaps it disappearing is a sign that her immune system is functioning better now which could be from the low v A diet...
Sounds like it could have been oral thrush? Perhaps it disappearing is a sign that her immune system is functioning better now which could be from the low v A diet...
Quote from who_am_i on December 16, 2018, 3:39 amDr. Smith said in one of his livestreams that a client of his managed to get rid of his white tongue and other seemingly fungal or bacterial related issues by eliminating VA.
I noticed my white tongue more often disappearing since following the diet although up until now it is always returning, but it also appears the coating is slowly receiding backwards.
I inspected my oral health more closely the last days and it seems my "white tongue" is at least partially yellow and orange in reality. Knowing what we all know here about the colours of carotenoids, it really made me think.
Very happy for your mom though.
Dr. Smith said in one of his livestreams that a client of his managed to get rid of his white tongue and other seemingly fungal or bacterial related issues by eliminating VA.
I noticed my white tongue more often disappearing since following the diet although up until now it is always returning, but it also appears the coating is slowly receiding backwards.
I inspected my oral health more closely the last days and it seems my "white tongue" is at least partially yellow and orange in reality. Knowing what we all know here about the colours of carotenoids, it really made me think.
Very happy for your mom though.
Quote from Liz on December 16, 2018, 5:24 amQuote from Guest on December 16, 2018, 1:30 amI usually get a white lounge after drinking milk. The same is with processed milk products, but there i tolerate a bigger amount. I guess it's a sign of bad digestion. Did your mother drank a low of milk or ate dairy before the low VA diet?
Her main fat was butter, sometimes cheese on (home made organic) sourdough bread or maybe cream in coffee. Else a lot of vegetables and overall "healthy" diet, old school cooking with "real" ingredients. Else no dairy really (she did not drink milk or eat yoghurt and such). She has had digestive issues towards meat, just like myself. I wonder if that will go away for her as well just as it did for me.
I get white/yellow coating myself from carrots and butter but i never made the connection to vit A until now.
Quote from Guest on December 16, 2018, 1:30 amI usually get a white lounge after drinking milk. The same is with processed milk products, but there i tolerate a bigger amount. I guess it's a sign of bad digestion. Did your mother drank a low of milk or ate dairy before the low VA diet?
Her main fat was butter, sometimes cheese on (home made organic) sourdough bread or maybe cream in coffee. Else a lot of vegetables and overall "healthy" diet, old school cooking with "real" ingredients. Else no dairy really (she did not drink milk or eat yoghurt and such). She has had digestive issues towards meat, just like myself. I wonder if that will go away for her as well just as it did for me.
I get white/yellow coating myself from carrots and butter but i never made the connection to vit A until now.
Quote from Guest on December 17, 2018, 2:36 amQuote from Liz on December 16, 2018, 5:24 amQuote from Guest on December 16, 2018, 1:30 amI usually get a white lounge after drinking milk. The same is with processed milk products, but there i tolerate a bigger amount. I guess it's a sign of bad digestion. Did your mother drank a low of milk or ate dairy before the low VA diet?
Her main fat was butter, sometimes cheese on (home made organic) sourdough bread or maybe cream in coffee. Else a lot of vegetables and overall "healthy" diet, old school cooking with "real" ingredients. Else no dairy really (she did not drink milk or eat yoghurt and such). She has had digestive issues towards meat, just like myself. I wonder if that will go away for her as well just as it did for me.
I get white/yellow coating myself from carrots and butter but i never made the connection to vit A until now.
Okay interesting.
So if its not the milk maybe she has a weak fat digestion. The low VA could help, because its usually not so much fat than before. For me its better to have more starches with rice/potatoes and sourdough bread and a little meat. The only problem in that case could be to get not enough calories. Also Taurine helps in that case.
Wish you the best!
Quote from Liz on December 16, 2018, 5:24 amQuote from Guest on December 16, 2018, 1:30 amI usually get a white lounge after drinking milk. The same is with processed milk products, but there i tolerate a bigger amount. I guess it's a sign of bad digestion. Did your mother drank a low of milk or ate dairy before the low VA diet?
Her main fat was butter, sometimes cheese on (home made organic) sourdough bread or maybe cream in coffee. Else a lot of vegetables and overall "healthy" diet, old school cooking with "real" ingredients. Else no dairy really (she did not drink milk or eat yoghurt and such). She has had digestive issues towards meat, just like myself. I wonder if that will go away for her as well just as it did for me.
I get white/yellow coating myself from carrots and butter but i never made the connection to vit A until now.
Okay interesting.
So if its not the milk maybe she has a weak fat digestion. The low VA could help, because its usually not so much fat than before. For me its better to have more starches with rice/potatoes and sourdough bread and a little meat. The only problem in that case could be to get not enough calories. Also Taurine helps in that case.
Wish you the best!
Quote from Liz on December 17, 2018, 10:21 pmShe has/had something, thats for sure. Just interesting it went away so fast by just lowering/eliminating vitamin A. I am exiting about what else this "diet" can do for her, health wise. And for her ill friend with severe RA, who has been "force fed" vit D by her doctor for 10 years (besides daily morphine), has just began eliminating all A and D and already appears to feel a little better.
She has/had something, thats for sure. Just interesting it went away so fast by just lowering/eliminating vitamin A. I am exiting about what else this "diet" can do for her, health wise. And for her ill friend with severe RA, who has been "force fed" vit D by her doctor for 10 years (besides daily morphine), has just began eliminating all A and D and already appears to feel a little better.
Quote from Guest on December 22, 2018, 12:52 pmIf she had long, thick, white structures on her tongue, it was likely "hairy tongue." Knowing how vit A interacts with tissue (overactive cell growth/life cycle) it would make sense that reducing vit A would alleviate this problem.
I'm hoping it will help with my geographic tongue as well. Still fairly early in the detox so it's too soon to tell.
If she had long, thick, white structures on her tongue, it was likely "hairy tongue." Knowing how vit A interacts with tissue (overactive cell growth/life cycle) it would make sense that reducing vit A would alleviate this problem.
I'm hoping it will help with my geographic tongue as well. Still fairly early in the detox so it's too soon to tell.
Quote from Liz on December 23, 2018, 12:14 amYes it was long and thick. I have to google hairy tounge now..
Have you always had a geographic tounge or has it appeared later in life? Please do update if you notice any difference with your geographic tounge :). I would very much like to hear about it.
Yes it was long and thick. I have to google hairy tounge now..
Have you always had a geographic tounge or has it appeared later in life? Please do update if you notice any difference with your geographic tounge :). I would very much like to hear about it.
Quote from Trista on December 23, 2018, 12:41 amI hadn't created a login when I previously posted. No, I haven't always had it. It showed up about 8 years ago. That was right around the time that I started taking birth control, exercising heavily, and eating lots of greens (vit A). I've since educated myself a bit better and stopped taking the birth control (almost a year ago), and I'm in the process of lowering vit a. Over the years I have experienced periods of it coming and going. However, the geographic tongue has never fully left. I'll keep you updated on my progress.
Trista
I hadn't created a login when I previously posted. No, I haven't always had it. It showed up about 8 years ago. That was right around the time that I started taking birth control, exercising heavily, and eating lots of greens (vit A). I've since educated myself a bit better and stopped taking the birth control (almost a year ago), and I'm in the process of lowering vit a. Over the years I have experienced periods of it coming and going. However, the geographic tongue has never fully left. I'll keep you updated on my progress.
Trista