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@tim-2

I don't know what to think of that.   I've had many bad health issues since a child.   Many of those got worse after taking fish oil supplements (not CLO) and eating many carotenoids.  I also got a few new symptoms after taking those supplements/eating alot of those foods, the main one being chronic headaches.   Retinoids and carotenoids are most likely a primary cause of dysbiosis.

 

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Retinoids and carotenoids are most likely a primary cause of dysbiosis.

It could well be the case but I'm not betting on it from a healing myself point of view. It is likely often autoimmune regardless of VA doing that or not. Often it can be due to low HCL which is caused by helicobacter, low B1, low zinc and other causes.

I have some AC in the cupboard but I'm making sure I have plenty of foods that contain fibre which is hopefully doing a similar thing.

For the last 30 years I've eaten more fiber than any other person I know personally.   For probably at least 2 decades I was obsessed with getting fiber (from my 20s to my 40s) and it never helped me but I just followed the dogma because I didn't know what else to try until low carb.   I never had stomache aches much apart from trying low carb (I don't think it was the low carb part of it but the high fat/protein foods I chose).   Though I've had migrains, the headaches I mostly get are not those.   After first going on the low poison A diet, I had migrains for about 2 weeks non stop, but that was over a year ago.   The migrains were more manageable than the headaches I got/get now, partly becasue of the associated symptoms.   I mention migrains because that seems to be reported along with dysbiosis and not other headaches.    Other than the constipation I've had since I can remember, I don't seem to have many "gut issues".    My kids also have constipation.   When my son was a toddler he would cry when he had to poop and had such large BMs we had to cut them up so they would flush.   Both my kids were breastfed.  I guess they could have got a screwed up micorbiota but how?  From me I suppose whether from my flora or other such as genetic predisposition for not getting rid of toxin A?   There is so much not known about gut bacteria and so trying to troubleshoot it seems futile.   I've tried homemade fermented vegetables, probiotic supplements, probiotic filled yogurts/vegetables from the store and they never helped me.

I had many health problems as a child.  Retinoids/carotenoids make the most sense/intuintion to me as a root cause.   

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I've been thinking about why the headaches I've been getting for most of the last 16 months are worse than the migrains I've had.   When I had migrains it seemed like just pure pain but the headaches I've had chronically for most of the last 16 months come with extreme brain fog and negativity so much that I can't function.  The headaches come with an increase in eye pain/discomfort and tiredness/fatigue.   I feel so much pressure in my head not the shooting pain of migrains.

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@tim-2   Another thing I want to point out is that my symptoms got worse after getting lots of sun in the summer and fall.   How does that fit in with dysbiosis?  I haven't read that much in depth about dysbiosis and don't know if there is any connection there.

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@romaine

Yeah I certainly wouldn't go overboard with fibre, I mean I'm eating some legumes and whole grains.

Here are a couple of good articles:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030608/

https://sibocenter.com/files/Dybiosis.pdf (this one discusses some of the causes of dysbiosis)

I have ordered two of the products mentioned.

High dose riboflavin is proven to help with migraines. Sunlight depletes riboflavin, so maybe that is something to look into?

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@tim-2

The last 5 years or so I have not focused on fiber but still got plenty in my diet trying to get adequate amounts of other nutrients.

You wrote  "High dose riboflavin is proven to help with migraines. Sunlight depletes riboflavin, so maybe that is something to look into?"

The last migrain I had was about 15 months ago.  The headaches I get now are pressure headaches.    Summer of 2018 before I got really sick, started getting the headaches and started the low A diet the one B vitamin I tried for a few weeks was riboflavin as advised by a doctor.   Recently I've tried B1, 2 and 3.  

I'll try to read those articles.

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@romaine this article keep coming to mind on the activation of B2, and the minerals needed but depleted detoxing VA.

https://b12oils.com/rnb.htm

 

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@orion

When I was taking 100 mgs of B2 in the summer of 2018 I had also been taking iodine, selenium and molybdenum for a few years.   So I don't know what to think.   When I recently was taking the first 3 Bs, I also took some molybdenum and iodine (topical) but not selenium.  I need to order some.

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@romaine, headaches was one of my things and it is the thing I'm doing best on.   I think some of this headache business is ARCHITECTURAL.

Just before finding the VA info,  I was on an a freight elevator in an old mill.  The guy we were going up with was also a migrainer.  He told me that he got some good relief from facial stretching.  Even without the VA lowering that facial stretching idea was very good.

Do you remember that Grant's fingers straightened?  I also have a couple of bent fingers.  Grant has also mentioned a woman whose jaw straightened.  I remember a comment from one of us Genereuxers in a log, I forget who said it, but he said something like:  "yawning is so much more satisfying now".

I often still feel tightness  in my face, at 8 months.    Across my nose, around my mouth and lips, around the back of my neck, jaw.   One of the symtpoms I get, that tell me that I've tightened up, is that my nose itches.   Try it, don't rub the nose, but instead stretch the face.

I used to silently scream the vowels.  But over time that stretching morphed into just making some very peculiar faces.

IMO, the VA, over time, shrinks and dries up ligaments etc.  I'm thinking this will get better and better.

The "prayer sign" is a sign to emergency personel that the person is hard to intubate.    It is a reflection of generalised joint and cartilage immobility and tight waxy skin, *http://icuroom-pearls.blogspot.com/2006/03/prayer-sign.html

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