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#1 · August 20, 2024, 5:09 am

Quote from Luis2 on August 20, 2024, 5:09 am
Greetings to all. I'm Luis Miguel from Spain. Since the time of Covid I have been reading a lot about health and following certain accounts on Twitter/X. A few weeks ago I came across posts talking about Vitamin A and ended up being recommended Grant's book.

As I was reading the book, I was thinking that many of the things Grant explains do not apply to Europe. The truth is that, as is almost always the case, it is much more difficult to eat well in America than it is here. That's why there are times when the advice from there doesn't apply here. For example, here almost everyone who can afford it uses olive oil, so the advice of the “seed oils” is not so important.

After finishing the book, I think I might have the problem with too much vitamin A anyway. The main thing is that I have had bad headaches for 25+ years. The doctor calls it “tension headache”, because in theory it is related to tension in the neck muscles when I have a lot of stress. That's what I've always thought, but reading Grant's book when he talks about getting headaches when he drove over speed bumps, I realized that I can't jump on a trampoline we bought for the kids to play on. When I try to jump, I get a headache, as if my brain is hitting the edges of my head. I was thinking of the “brain inflammation” that Grant talks about. I cannot do exercise either, as when I try to do it, I get 3 days of headaches. For about 3 months now, the headaches have been practically continuous and I have to take Ibuprofen constantly... One of the changes I've recently made to my keto is to eat a lot more bacon and eggs, although reading the forum, it's not clear if pork really provides much vitamin A. It could be the egg...

For about 3 years I have been following a keto diet that has made me lose more than 10 kg (22 pounds). I was not very overweight, but after losing that amount, I am better: 176 cm (5'9") / 75 kg (165 lbs). I have always felt a bit tired, because I have never exercised in my whole life, but I would say that these last years I feel much more tired. Another thing that happens to me is that I lose strength in one of my legs when I get nervous. I don't know if it's something muscular or if it's related to nerves...

I have also had 25 years in which my kidney produces calcium oxalate stones, and every 3 or 4 years I have hemorrhoids, although in this case I think it has nothing to do with vitamin A, right?

Although as I said at the beginning, things in Europe are not supposed to be as bad as in the USA (for example here milk is not fortified with vitamin A), I am seriously considering starting a diet like Grant's to see if the headaches go away or decrease in intensity or frequency. Since my head hurts almost every day lately, it should be easy to test if in 2 or 3 weeks there is any improvement... I'll report back, for sure.

Do you have any advice or feedback from european VitA avoiders? Thanks!

Greetings to all. I'm Luis Miguel from Spain. Since the time of Covid I have been reading a lot about health and following certain accounts on Twitter/X. A few weeks ago I came across posts talking about Vitamin A and ended up being recommended Grant's book.

As I was reading the book, I was thinking that many of the things Grant explains do not apply to Europe. The truth is that, as is almost always the case, it is much more difficult to eat well in America than it is here. That's why there are times when the advice from there doesn't apply here. For example, here almost everyone who can afford it uses olive oil, so the advice of the “seed oils” is not so important.

After finishing the book, I think I might have the problem with too much vitamin A anyway. The main thing is that I have had bad headaches for 25+ years. The doctor calls it “tension headache”, because in theory it is related to tension in the neck muscles when I have a lot of stress. That's what I've always thought, but reading Grant's book when he talks about getting headaches when he drove over speed bumps, I realized that I can't jump on a trampoline we bought for the kids to play on. When I try to jump, I get a headache, as if my brain is hitting the edges of my head. I was thinking of the “brain inflammation” that Grant talks about. I cannot do exercise either, as when I try to do it, I get 3 days of headaches. For about 3 months now, the headaches have been practically continuous and I have to take Ibuprofen constantly... One of the changes I've recently made to my keto is to eat a lot more bacon and eggs, although reading the forum, it's not clear if pork really provides much vitamin A. It could be the egg...

For about 3 years I have been following a keto diet that has made me lose more than 10 kg (22 pounds). I was not very overweight, but after losing that amount, I am better: 176 cm (5'9") / 75 kg (165 lbs). I have always felt a bit tired, because I have never exercised in my whole life, but I would say that these last years I feel much more tired. Another thing that happens to me is that I lose strength in one of my legs when I get nervous. I don't know if it's something muscular or if it's related to nerves...

I have also had 25 years in which my kidney produces calcium oxalate stones, and every 3 or 4 years I have hemorrhoids, although in this case I think it has nothing to do with vitamin A, right?

Although as I said at the beginning, things in Europe are not supposed to be as bad as in the USA (for example here milk is not fortified with vitamin A), I am seriously considering starting a diet like Grant's to see if the headaches go away or decrease in intensity or frequency. Since my head hurts almost every day lately, it should be easy to test if in 2 or 3 weeks there is any improvement... I'll report back, for sure.

Do you have any advice or feedback from european VitA avoiders? Thanks!

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#2 · August 20, 2024, 5:21 am

Bacon with nitrites could cause headaches from high nitric oxide. This would tend to happen with higher vitamin A also. I only ever eliminated the highest sources of carotenoids (carrots, peppers, sweet potatoes, spinach and kale) and Vitamin A (liver). I also considerably reduced tomatoes.

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#3 · August 20, 2024, 6:12 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 5:21 am

Bacon with nitrites could cause headaches from high nitric oxide. This would tend to happen with higher vitamin A also.

Thanks Andrew, maybe the Vitamin A from the eggs, and the nitric oxide from the bacon worsened my situation...

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#4 · August 20, 2024, 6:17 am

The vitamin A in eggs is very low relative to RDA. Eggs are full of nutrients like phosphatidylcholine, selenium and biotin. I eat 3 eggs a day and it's been very helpful (now at year 5). Only if you have egg intolerance/egg white allergy or sulphur metabolism problems would I considering taking out the eggs.

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#5 · August 20, 2024, 6:25 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 6:17 am

The vitamin A in eggs is very low relative to RDA. Eggs are full of nutrients like phosphatidylcholine, selenium and biotin. I eat 3 eggs a day and it's been very helpful (now at year 5). Only if you have egg intolerance/egg white allergy or sulphur metabolism problems would I considering taking out the eggs.

From what I've been reading in the forum, you can have some eggs, but not too many. That's what I was planning to do, one from time to time.

On the other side, if I'm going to test if my problems are related with Vitamin A, I'm probably going to enter into psychopat mode and be in the safe side of not eating a single microgram of it 🙂

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#6 · August 20, 2024, 7:43 am

Going too low vitamin A in the first place isnt a good idea. It backfires for about 50% of people including me about the 2.5 years mark. In my group there's less problems when you replenish choline and betaine first. So I wouldnt eliminate 1-3 eggs a day. We recommend about 50-75% of RDA initially. Grant did low vitamin A to prove a point but it's not the best way to detox according to liver practitioners.

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#7 · August 20, 2024, 9:20 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 7:43 am

Going too low vitamin A in the first place isnt a good idea. It backfires for about 50% of people including me about the 2.5 years mark. In my group there's less problems when you replenish choline and betaine first. So I wouldnt eliminate 1-3 eggs a day. We recommend about 50-75% of RDA initially. Grant did low vitamin A to prove a point but it's not the best way to detox according to liver practitioners.

Thanks Andrew. The thing is that I don't think I've taken so much of it lately, so I need a way to know if my problem is Vitamin A and the path is going to worth it, or not. That's why I thought a shock diet would be better. Maybe I could try a shock diet first, and if the problem improves, I know the problem is VitA, and I can reintroduce it at low amounts...

I forgot to say that my headaches are usually accompanied by mouth sores (canker sores), or times when beard hairs get inside the skin and become infected. I guess that would be inflammation on the mouth or the skin, but I don't know.

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#8 · August 20, 2024, 10:14 pm

Quote from Deleted user on August 20, 2024, 10:14 pm

Quote from Luis2 on August 20, 2024, 9:20 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 7:43 am

Going too low vitamin A in the first place isnt a good idea. It backfires for about 50% of people including me about the 2.5 years mark. In my group there's less problems when you replenish choline and betaine first. So I wouldnt eliminate 1-3 eggs a day. We recommend about 50-75% of RDA initially. Grant did low vitamin A to prove a point but it's not the best way to detox according to liver practitioners.

Thanks Andrew. The thing is that I don't think I've taken so much of it lately, so I need a way to know if my problem is Vitamin A and the path is going to worth it, or not. That's why I thought a shock diet would be better. Maybe I could try a shock diet first, and if the problem improves, I know the problem is VitA, and I can reintroduce it at low amounts...

I forgot to say that my headaches are usually accompanied by mouth sores (canker sores), or times when beard hairs get inside the skin and become infected. I guess that would be inflammation on the mouth or the skin, but I don't know.

When getting the mouth sores, I make a pot of chicken soup. 1 gallon distilled water, salt, 1 whole organic chicken, juice of 1 lemon. Lysine in chicken seems to be the thing. I clean the chicken of bones and eat the meat in the next couple days. I put the broth in quart jars in the refrigerator and sip as needed. The sores go away quickly.

I was keto paleo 12 years before finding Grant and Garrett Smith 12/2022. I went low vitamin A as fast and hard as I could. My problems were acute and dire. Working with Garrett and his blog posters on nutritiondetective.com was invaluable. I am still there. My first couple months, I focused on and pled with everyone to find a way to slow down my liver detoxing the retinoids. It took persuasion and patience. Once I started getting good results I realized they are right. It is much better to rebuild the digestive tract and increase the excretion of the toxic bile rather than slow down how much toxic bile the liver dumps into the system. As long as the colon is pooping out the retinoids faster than the liver is dumping them life keeps improving.

That is where charcoal, soluble fiber and magnesium, potassium and other nutrients that retinols deplete come in.

I ran across this testimonial last week and got permission to repost it elsewhere tonight. Peter asked that I leave his last name out and that I note that he is eating carnivore + psyllium.

I suggest you stop the ibuprofen completely now. It is slowing down your liver and making the pain worse long term and probably soon short term. Pharma are not our friends.

The kidney stones and the hemorrhoids have everything to do with the retinols. Oxalates and nightshades are also probably not helping. When the liver is falling down on the job, the kidneys and skin try to take up the slack. I have passed stones (some horrific) since 2003. My most frequent stones were daily starting 11/22/2022. After 6 months on low vitamin A working with Dr Smith and all my stones stopped. Previously I was passing sand in my urine with 5 to 10 stones the size of flax seeds daily. A few zingers the size of rice grains every week just to keep my attention. During that time, my stones were a secondary symptom to isotretinoin induced sacroiliitis. When I started improving in March of 2023, all my symptoms faded progressively faster. I have passed zero kidney stones since then. I have had zero kidney symptoms since then. Everything is still improving. My testimonial is on here somewhere.

Glad you are here and learning fast. Please do not eat eggs nor bacon. The fraudulent science folk who measure for vitamin A in foods routinely do not measure all forms of vitamin A. Pork has far more vitamin A than they show. I find it increasingly humorous that anyone discusses nutrition based on RDA's from people that Grant has clearly proven are frauds. Grant has taken in 1000 times less vitamin A for ten years than the RDA's require. By these science fraud standards, Grant went blind 9 years ago and died 8 years ago from vitamin A deficiency diseases.

Good luck and see you around. Hope to see you on the Love Your Liver network on Garrett's blog. It costs $100/yr and is well worth it. Also Garrett has weekly livestreams where he answers questions and deals with related topics. Today was livestream #160 and dealt with copper toxicity, what binds copper and how much better life gets. And it does. Garrett also has excellent threads on Twitter @nutridetect

htt

ps://www.

youtube.c

om/watch?v=T33iqL81j8g

For some reason the link above needed to be broken. Seems like youtube is messing with us again. The link below works fine.

(22182) Love Your Liver Livestream #160: Bind Copper = Less DISEASE! Testimonials! Subscriber Q&A! - YouTube

These are free and many of us use them in a do it yourself mode.

Thank you. Do well and see you around.

Peter
Member

Home
I have been on the diet now for 2 years and 8½ month. The last couple of months I have had days, where I feel incredible well. Today is one of them. It is just insane so good one can feel when the level of toxins comes below a certain level. Bile seems to flow very well.

I came to this forum to get help with xanthalasma that had evolved for about a year. It is gone now, except for a couple of small, almost invisible patches that only I can see. It will also soon be gone.

I was born with jaundice and for more that 50 years liver paté and carrots were some of my favorite foods that I ate almost daily, as they are considered stable foods here in Denmark. I have also been eating a lot of eggs and whole livers. This year, for the first time since I was a kid, my skin was not yellow during the winter.

I'm curious about what my serum level of vA is, but unfortunately it is not possible to get that tested here.

Posted Thu, August 15

Quote from Luis2 on August 20, 2024, 9:20 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 7:43 am

Going too low vitamin A in the first place isnt a good idea. It backfires for about 50% of people including me about the 2.5 years mark. In my group there's less problems when you replenish choline and betaine first. So I wouldnt eliminate 1-3 eggs a day. We recommend about 50-75% of RDA initially. Grant did low vitamin A to prove a point but it's not the best way to detox according to liver practitioners.

Thanks Andrew. The thing is that I don't think I've taken so much of it lately, so I need a way to know if my problem is Vitamin A and the path is going to worth it, or not. That's why I thought a shock diet would be better. Maybe I could try a shock diet first, and if the problem improves, I know the problem is VitA, and I can reintroduce it at low amounts...

I forgot to say that my headaches are usually accompanied by mouth sores (canker sores), or times when beard hairs get inside the skin and become infected. I guess that would be inflammation on the mouth or the skin, but I don't know.

When getting the mouth sores, I make a pot of chicken soup. 1 gallon distilled water, salt, 1 whole organic chicken, juice of 1 lemon. Lysine in chicken seems to be the thing. I clean the chicken of bones and eat the meat in the next couple days. I put the broth in quart jars in the refrigerator and sip as needed. The sores go away quickly.

I was keto paleo 12 years before finding Grant and Garrett Smith 12/2022. I went low vitamin A as fast and hard as I could. My problems were acute and dire. Working with Garrett and his blog posters on nutritiondetective.com was invaluable. I am still there. My first couple months, I focused on and pled with everyone to find a way to slow down my liver detoxing the retinoids. It took persuasion and patience. Once I started getting good results I realized they are right. It is much better to rebuild the digestive tract and increase the excretion of the toxic bile rather than slow down how much toxic bile the liver dumps into the system. As long as the colon is pooping out the retinoids faster than the liver is dumping them life keeps improving.

That is where charcoal, soluble fiber and magnesium, potassium and other nutrients that retinols deplete come in.

I ran across this testimonial last week and got permission to repost it elsewhere tonight. Peter asked that I leave his last name out and that I note that he is eating carnivore + psyllium.

I suggest you stop the ibuprofen completely now. It is slowing down your liver and making the pain worse long term and probably soon short term. Pharma are not our friends.

The kidney stones and the hemorrhoids have everything to do with the retinols. Oxalates and nightshades are also probably not helping. When the liver is falling down on the job, the kidneys and skin try to take up the slack. I have passed stones (some horrific) since 2003. My most frequent stones were daily starting 11/22/2022. After 6 months on low vitamin A working with Dr Smith and all my stones stopped. Previously I was passing sand in my urine with 5 to 10 stones the size of flax seeds daily. A few zingers the size of rice grains every week just to keep my attention. During that time, my stones were a secondary symptom to isotretinoin induced sacroiliitis. When I started improving in March of 2023, all my symptoms faded progressively faster. I have passed zero kidney stones since then. I have had zero kidney symptoms since then. Everything is still improving. My testimonial is on here somewhere.

Glad you are here and learning fast. Please do not eat eggs nor bacon. The fraudulent science folk who measure for vitamin A in foods routinely do not measure all forms of vitamin A. Pork has far more vitamin A than they show. I find it increasingly humorous that anyone discusses nutrition based on RDA's from people that Grant has clearly proven are frauds. Grant has taken in 1000 times less vitamin A for ten years than the RDA's require. By these science fraud standards, Grant went blind 9 years ago and died 8 years ago from vitamin A deficiency diseases.

Good luck and see you around. Hope to see you on the Love Your Liver network on Garrett's blog. It costs $100/yr and is well worth it. Also Garrett has weekly livestreams where he answers questions and deals with related topics. Today was livestream #160 and dealt with copper toxicity, what binds copper and how much better life gets. And it does. Garrett also has excellent threads on Twitter @nutridetect

htt

ps://www.

youtube.c

om/watch?v=T33iqL81j8g

For some reason the link above needed to be broken. Seems like youtube is messing with us again. The link below works fine.

(22182) Love Your Liver Livestream #160: Bind Copper = Less DISEASE! Testimonials! Subscriber Q&A! - YouTube

These are free and many of us use them in a do it yourself mode.

Thank you. Do well and see you around.

Peter
Member

Home
I have been on the diet now for 2 years and 8½ month. The last couple of months I have had days, where I feel incredible well. Today is one of them. It is just insane so good one can feel when the level of toxins comes below a certain level. Bile seems to flow very well.

I came to this forum to get help with xanthalasma that had evolved for about a year. It is gone now, except for a couple of small, almost invisible patches that only I can see. It will also soon be gone.

I was born with jaundice and for more that 50 years liver paté and carrots were some of my favorite foods that I ate almost daily, as they are considered stable foods here in Denmark. I have also been eating a lot of eggs and whole livers. This year, for the first time since I was a kid, my skin was not yellow during the winter.

I'm curious about what my serum level of vA is, but unfortunately it is not possible to get that tested here.

Posted Thu, August 15

#9 · August 21, 2024, 8:59 am

Quote from Jessica2 on August 21, 2024, 4:12 am

@joe You had kidney issues too? How very interesting that is to me. It's almost like what I said; that people with kidney issues or some underlying other issue seem to be very sensitive to vitamin A intake and that limiting the diet by cutting out dairy and /or wheat seems to help them, might be true.

Curious, do you eat wheat/gluten?

I had liver issues all along. Turns out the kidney issues resolved as the liver improved. Previous to learning Grant's blog and Garrett's LYL blog, I revolved around kidneys. My first stone had me screaming all day into the night on 8/3/2003. I rode it out and learned kidneys. Felt blackmailed and cornered. Kidney stones cause infections. Infections cause stones. Allergies cause both. Food toxins cause both. And on.

My worst liver issue drove me to Grant and Garrett 12/2022. Have not studied nor worked to treat kidney issues since then. They resolved on their own. At my azimuth for liver, kidneys slowed enough to give me elephant legs from knees down. Massive edema. It all resolved as I focused on liver and made my own protocol using Garrett's "order of adding stuff" list lesson. Fiber was first. Then magnesium, potassium and charcoal.

Kidneys are an after effect. I am excellent at helping people with kidney stones. As good as I am with working through stones, it is like bragging that I drive using the rearview mirror very well. Working with kidney stones is not resolving them. Working with liver resolves all kidney problems.

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#10 · August 21, 2024, 12:35 pm

Quote from Luis2 on August 21, 2024, 12:35 pm

Quote from Joe on August 20, 2024, 10:14 pm

Quote from Luis2 on August 20, 2024, 9:20 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 7:43 am

Going too low vitamin A in the first place isnt a good idea. It backfires for about 50% of people including me about the 2.5 years mark. In my group there's less problems when you replenish choline and betaine first. So I wouldnt eliminate 1-3 eggs a day. We recommend about 50-75% of RDA initially. Grant did low vitamin A to prove a point but it's not the best way to detox according to liver practitioners.

Thanks Andrew. The thing is that I don't think I've taken so much of it lately, so I need a way to know if my problem is Vitamin A and the path is going to worth it, or not. That's why I thought a shock diet would be better. Maybe I could try a shock diet first, and if the problem improves, I know the problem is VitA, and I can reintroduce it at low amounts...

I forgot to say that my headaches are usually accompanied by mouth sores (canker sores), or times when beard hairs get inside the skin and become infected. I guess that would be inflammation on the mouth or the skin, but I don't know.

When getting the mouth sores, I make a pot of chicken soup. 1 gallon distilled water, salt, 1 whole organic chicken, juice of 1 lemon. Lysine in chicken seems to be the thing. I clean the chicken of bones and eat the meat in the next couple days. I put the broth in quart jars in the refrigerator and sip as needed. The sores go away quickly.

I was keto paleo 12 years before finding Grant and Garrett Smith 12/2022. I went low vitamin A as fast and hard as I could. My problems were acute and dire. Working with Garrett and his blog posters on nutritiondetective.com was invaluable. I am still there. My first couple months, I focused on and pled with everyone to find a way to slow down my liver detoxing the retinoids. It took persuasion and patience. Once I started getting good results I realized they are right. It is much better to rebuild the digestive tract and increase the excretion of the toxic bile rather than slow down how much toxic bile the liver dumps into the system. As long as the colon is pooping out the retinoids faster than the liver is dumping them life keeps improving.

That is where charcoal, soluble fiber and magnesium, potassium and other nutrients that retinols deplete come in.

I ran across this testimonial last week and got permission to repost it elsewhere tonight. Peter asked that I leave his last name out and that I note that he is eating carnivore + psyllium.

I suggest you stop the ibuprofen completely now. It is slowing down your liver and making the pain worse long term and probably soon short term. Pharma are not our friends.

The kidney stones and the hemorrhoids have everything to do with the retinols. Oxalates and nightshades are also probably not helping. When the liver is falling down on the job, the kidneys and skin try to take up the slack. I have passed stones (some horrific) since 2003. My most frequent stones were daily starting 11/22/2022. After 6 months on low vitamin A working with Dr Smith and all my stones stopped. Previously I was passing sand in my urine with 5 to 10 stones the size of flax seeds daily. A few zingers the size of rice grains every week just to keep my attention. During that time, my stones were a secondary symptom to isotretinoin induced sacroiliitis. When I started improving in March of 2023, all my symptoms faded progressively faster. I have passed zero kidney stones since then. I have had zero kidney symptoms since then. Everything is still improving. My testimonial is on here somewhere.

Glad you are here and learning fast. Please do not eat eggs nor bacon. The fraudulent science folk who measure for vitamin A in foods routinely do not measure all forms of vitamin A. Pork has far more vitamin A than they show. I find it increasingly humorous that anyone discusses nutrition based on RDA's from people that Grant has clearly proven are frauds. Grant has taken in 1000 times less vitamin A for ten years than the RDA's require. By these science fraud standards, Grant went blind 9 years ago and died 8 years ago from vitamin A deficiency diseases.

Good luck and see you around. Hope to see you on the Love Your Liver network on Garrett's blog. It costs $100/yr and is well worth it. Also Garrett has weekly livestreams where he answers questions and deals with related topics. Today was livestream #160 and dealt with copper toxicity, what binds copper and how much better life gets. And it does. Garrett also has excellent threads on Twitter @nutridetect

htt

ps://www.

youtube.c

om/watch?v=T33iqL81j8g

For some reason the link above needed to be broken. Seems like youtube is messing with us again. The link below works fine.

(22182) Love Your Liver Livestream #160: Bind Copper = Less DISEASE! Testimonials! Subscriber Q&A! - YouTube

These are free and many of us use them in a do it yourself mode.

Thank you. Do well and see you around.

Peter
Member

Home
I have been on the diet now for 2 years and 8½ month. The last couple of months I have had days, where I feel incredible well. Today is one of them. It is just insane so good one can feel when the level of toxins comes below a certain level. Bile seems to flow very well.

I came to this forum to get help with xanthalasma that had evolved for about a year. It is gone now, except for a couple of small, almost invisible patches that only I can see. It will also soon be gone.

I was born with jaundice and for more that 50 years liver paté and carrots were some of my favorite foods that I ate almost daily, as they are considered stable foods here in Denmark. I have also been eating a lot of eggs and whole livers. This year, for the first time since I was a kid, my skin was not yellow during the winter.

I'm curious about what my serum level of vA is, but unfortunately it is not possible to get that tested here.

Posted Thu, August 15

Thanks! A lot of very good advice...

Is there a table that I can trust that show VitA and retinoids in the food? I'm using this one (in spanish), but I don't know if I can trust it...

https://www.cun.es/chequeos-salud/vida-sana/nutricion/alimentos-ricos-vitamina-a

Yeah, I'm trying not to use pharma, and get rid of the Ibuprofen, but for now I need it because I've been more than 2 months with headache. I cannot wait to return home (I'm on vacation with the family) to start cutting on VitA to see if something improves...

Thanks!

Quote from Joe on August 20, 2024, 10:14 pm

Quote from Luis2 on August 20, 2024, 9:20 am

Quote from Andrew B on August 20, 2024, 7:43 am

Going too low vitamin A in the first place isnt a good idea. It backfires for about 50% of people including me about the 2.5 years mark. In my group there's less problems when you replenish choline and betaine first. So I wouldnt eliminate 1-3 eggs a day. We recommend about 50-75% of RDA initially. Grant did low vitamin A to prove a point but it's not the best way to detox according to liver practitioners.

Thanks Andrew. The thing is that I don't think I've taken so much of it lately, so I need a way to know if my problem is Vitamin A and the path is going to worth it, or not. That's why I thought a shock diet would be better. Maybe I could try a shock diet first, and if the problem improves, I know the problem is VitA, and I can reintroduce it at low amounts...

I forgot to say that my headaches are usually accompanied by mouth sores (canker sores), or times when beard hairs get inside the skin and become infected. I guess that would be inflammation on the mouth or the skin, but I don't know.

When getting the mouth sores, I make a pot of chicken soup. 1 gallon distilled water, salt, 1 whole organic chicken, juice of 1 lemon. Lysine in chicken seems to be the thing. I clean the chicken of bones and eat the meat in the next couple days. I put the broth in quart jars in the refrigerator and sip as needed. The sores go away quickly.

I was keto paleo 12 years before finding Grant and Garrett Smith 12/2022. I went low vitamin A as fast and hard as I could. My problems were acute and dire. Working with Garrett and his blog posters on nutritiondetective.com was invaluable. I am still there. My first couple months, I focused on and pled with everyone to find a way to slow down my liver detoxing the retinoids. It took persuasion and patience. Once I started getting good results I realized they are right. It is much better to rebuild the digestive tract and increase the excretion of the toxic bile rather than slow down how much toxic bile the liver dumps into the system. As long as the colon is pooping out the retinoids faster than the liver is dumping them life keeps improving.

That is where charcoal, soluble fiber and magnesium, potassium and other nutrients that retinols deplete come in.

I ran across this testimonial last week and got permission to repost it elsewhere tonight. Peter asked that I leave his last name out and that I note that he is eating carnivore + psyllium.

I suggest you stop the ibuprofen completely now. It is slowing down your liver and making the pain worse long term and probably soon short term. Pharma are not our friends.

The kidney stones and the hemorrhoids have everything to do with the retinols. Oxalates and nightshades are also probably not helping. When the liver is falling down on the job, the kidneys and skin try to take up the slack. I have passed stones (some horrific) since 2003. My most frequent stones were daily starting 11/22/2022. After 6 months on low vitamin A working with Dr Smith and all my stones stopped. Previously I was passing sand in my urine with 5 to 10 stones the size of flax seeds daily. A few zingers the size of rice grains every week just to keep my attention. During that time, my stones were a secondary symptom to isotretinoin induced sacroiliitis. When I started improving in March of 2023, all my symptoms faded progressively faster. I have passed zero kidney stones since then. I have had zero kidney symptoms since then. Everything is still improving. My testimonial is on here somewhere.

Glad you are here and learning fast. Please do not eat eggs nor bacon. The fraudulent science folk who measure for vitamin A in foods routinely do not measure all forms of vitamin A. Pork has far more vitamin A than they show. I find it increasingly humorous that anyone discusses nutrition based on RDA's from people that Grant has clearly proven are frauds. Grant has taken in 1000 times less vitamin A for ten years than the RDA's require. By these science fraud standards, Grant went blind 9 years ago and died 8 years ago from vitamin A deficiency diseases.

Good luck and see you around. Hope to see you on the Love Your Liver network on Garrett's blog. It costs $100/yr and is well worth it. Also Garrett has weekly livestreams where he answers questions and deals with related topics. Today was livestream #160 and dealt with copper toxicity, what binds copper and how much better life gets. And it does. Garrett also has excellent threads on Twitter @nutridetect

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(22182) Love Your Liver Livestream #160: Bind Copper = Less DISEASE! Testimonials! Subscriber Q&A! - YouTube

These are free and many of us use them in a do it yourself mode.

Thank you. Do well and see you around.

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I have been on the diet now for 2 years and 8½ month. The last couple of months I have had days, where I feel incredible well. Today is one of them. It is just insane so good one can feel when the level of toxins comes below a certain level. Bile seems to flow very well.

I came to this forum to get help with xanthalasma that had evolved for about a year. It is gone now, except for a couple of small, almost invisible patches that only I can see. It will also soon be gone.

I was born with jaundice and for more that 50 years liver paté and carrots were some of my favorite foods that I ate almost daily, as they are considered stable foods here in Denmark. I have also been eating a lot of eggs and whole livers. This year, for the first time since I was a kid, my skin was not yellow during the winter.

I'm curious about what my serum level of vA is, but unfortunately it is not possible to get that tested here.

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Thanks! A lot of very good advice...

Is there a table that I can trust that show VitA and retinoids in the food? I'm using this one (in spanish), but I don't know if I can trust it...

https://www.cun.es/chequeos-salud/vida-sana/nutricion/alimentos-ricos-vitamina-a

Yeah, I'm trying not to use pharma, and get rid of the Ibuprofen, but for now I need it because I've been more than 2 months with headache. I cannot wait to return home (I'm on vacation with the family) to start cutting on VitA to see if something improves...

Thanks!

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