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Another villain - Tocotrienol?

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I have been puzzled for a long time about the bad reaction of some people to coconut oil. Some people don't have a problem with refined coconut oil. The explanation of the Grant did not suit me very much, since coconut oil is low in palmitic acid.

There is something that unites PUFA, carotenoids and tocotrienols ... These are all unsaturated substances and when they enter the human body, they can be oxidized, producing toxins.

Unrefined coconut oil appears to be a source of tocotrienols:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32095059/

Also some people on this forum have had a bad reaction to olive oil. I too had a bad reaction to a vitamin E supplement with unrefined olive oil, but not to alpha-tocopherol with refined sunflower oil from the pharmacy.

it looks like olive oil is also rich in tocotrienols:
https://www.agilent.com/cs/library/applications/5991-5499EN.pdf

I think other natural sources of vitamin E/vegetable oils can also be problematic due to tocotrienols. Therefore, google if you want to eat something from this.

Disclaimer: this is just a theory in an attempt to explain the inconsistencies

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Nice find, thank you for sharing. I had one of the worst reactions ever to a coconut-butter.  It is up there with milk for worst foods for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocotrienol

"Tocotrienols are compounds naturally occurring at higher levels in some vegetable oils, including palm oil, rice bran oil, wheat germ, barley, saw palmetto, annatto, and certain other types of seeds, nuts and grains, and the oils derived from them"

"Other natural tocotrienol sources include rice bran oil, coconut oil, cocoa butter, barley, and wheat germ."

Here is a good summary for all vitamins, including E:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7900602/

E boosts IgMs from B-cells and they are typically predominant immunoglobulins in autoimmune diseases.

 

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"In nature, tocotrienols are present in many plants and fruits. The palm fruit (Elaeis guineensis) is particularly high in tocotrienols, primarily gamma-tocotrienolalpha-tocotrienol and delta-tocotrienol. Other cultivated plants high in tocotrienols includes rice, wheat, barley, rye and oat.[31] In annatto, tocotrienols are relatively abundant (only delta- and gamma-tocotrienol however) and it contains no tocopherols."

hmm, maybe that's why I react to rice and oat? .. Although rice has very little fat, but E is fat-soluble. I would like to find some comparative tables

White rice probably contains less E than meat - 95% of its vitamins are concentrated in bran along with some nasty stuff like gamma oryzanol.

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https://www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/80400525/Articles/jfca19_196-204.pdf

From this table you can learn a little about the content of tocotrienols in vegetables/fruits (the second table at the end where alpha / gamma tocotrienols).

I had to climb according to research, according to my calculations in 2 teaspoons of unrefined coconut oil will be + - 0.25 mg of tocotrienols, olive oil - 0.35 mg(but this may vary 3 times)

By the way, note from the table that onions are relatively high in tocotrienol(min 0.12 mg). If you eat a lot, you can react. Me and another person on another thread had a bad reaction to this.

I think my sensitivity threshold is somewhere around 0.2 mg

I think my sensitivity threshold is somewhere around 0.2 mg

How is your sensitivity to sun? (i.e. basically vitamin D fluctuations)

Quote from rockarolla on July 4, 2021, 2:14 pm

I think my sensitivity threshold is somewhere around 0.2 mg

How is your sensitivity to sun? (i.e. basically vitamin D fluctuations)

I have an ultraviolet lamp, and I once used it to get vitamin D. This way I was able to raise it to 60. However, when I recently (after the beginning of detoxification) decided to use it, I got something like sunstroke. Some kind of light-headedness. Since then, I have not used it.

Vitamin D was last 60 and it was 2 months ago.

By the way, today I ate white potatoes ... Everything seems to be fine.

I've wondered before why, if saturated fats are good for us, they mostly taste (also) disgusting. Sugar seems to be popular with everyone. Now I understand that they will contain either a lot of vitamin A (like butter) or tocotrienols (like coconut / palm oil).

Since the rest of the fats are even worse... It looks like we need to either raise animals without vitamin A and eat their fat, or go on a low fat diet.

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