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Another villain - Tocotrienol?
I also find coconut oil inflammatory, I don't think it has to do with the tocotrienols though... to get a single milligram of tocotrienols you need to consume 100g of coconut oil as per the study you linked
I wonder if it has to do with the longer chained fatty acids in coconut oil, mct oil just tastes like oily water and doesn't smell at all but I haven't tested it to see if I get the same negative effects that I do with normal coconut oil
Paul Mason has said something about MCT oil being bad... that it led to intestinal permeability? I believe he's also discussed the problems with olive oil (e.g. rapid oxidation). I know Zsofia Clemens of Paleomedicina has mentioned that coconut oil contributes to intestinal permeability. Both coconut oil and olive oil contain polyphenols, which I think is what gives olive oil its peppery "bite".
Personally, after switching to a carnivore diet, I've become much more sensitive to the tastes and smells of plant compounds, and I can really taste them in olive oil and coconut oil now. As I mentioned before, I also find the fat from grain-finished cows to be off-putting, especially in ground meat. However, I will happily eat piles of grass-finished tallow without my senses telling me not to.
Pretty much the only way to obtain significant quantities of fat without processing absurd amounts of plant products is from animals. I'm a big proponent of trying to eat things in proportion to how you would find them in nature, and even though coconut oil and olive oil are probably the safest plant-derived fats, it is still "unnatural" to eat them in bottled form separate from the rest of the fruit they came from. By doing that, you are getting abnormally high concentrations of the plant compounds they contain, which is going to have impacts on your intestines and liver.
Quote from Kurtis on July 4, 2021, 6:34 pmI also find coconut oil inflammatory, I don't think it has to do with the tocotrienols though... to get a single milligram of tocotrienols you need to consume 100g of coconut oil as per the study you linked
I wonder if it has to do with the longer chained fatty acids in coconut oil, mct oil just tastes like oily water and doesn't smell at all but I haven't tested it to see if I get the same negative effects that I do with normal coconut oil
Where did you get this figure? In the only study I have published, coconut is mentioned as a fruit.
If you're wondering, here's about the tocotrienols in coconut oil:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5085773
So it will be different. 1 is probably the minimum. The average is somewhere around 2.5 as I mentioned.
Plus, it's okay for you that 0.1 mg of rethinol from milk can cause problems. Although it also seemed to me nonsense.
I've found that all fats are anti-metabolic, even saturated ones. So up to 60g / day for basic needs, but the rest should be carbs and proteins IMO...
Quote from Daniil on July 4, 2021, 5:47 pmQuote from rockarolla on July 4, 2021, 2:14 pmI think my sensitivity threshold is somewhere around 0.2 mg
How is your sensitivity to sun? (i.e. basically vitamin D fluctuations)
I have an ultraviolet lamp, and I once used it to get vitamin D. This way I was able to raise it to 60. However, when I recently (after the beginning of detoxification) decided to use it, I got something like sunstroke. Some kind of light-headedness. Since then, I have not used it.
Vitamin D was last 60 and it was 2 months ago.
By the way, today I ate white potatoes ... Everything seems to be fine.
60ng is way to much - optimal is between 20 and 30ng
However, when I recently (after the beginning of detoxification) decided to use it, I got something like sunstroke. Some kind of light-headedness.
Withdrawal from other vitamins increases sun sensitivity, as well as low levels of D25 by themselves.
Lightheadedness, racing thoughts, sweating, fatigue, nap attacks, insomnia, weight loss, extra intolerances(like carbs, zinc) become typical symptoms.
Quote from rockarolla on July 5, 2021, 1:54 amQuote from Daniil on July 4, 2021, 5:47 pmQuote from rockarolla on July 4, 2021, 2:14 pmI think my sensitivity threshold is somewhere around 0.2 mg
How is your sensitivity to sun? (i.e. basically vitamin D fluctuations)
I have an ultraviolet lamp, and I once used it to get vitamin D. This way I was able to raise it to 60. However, when I recently (after the beginning of detoxification) decided to use it, I got something like sunstroke. Some kind of light-headedness. Since then, I have not used it.
Vitamin D was last 60 and it was 2 months ago.
By the way, today I ate white potatoes ... Everything seems to be fine.
60ng is way to much - optimal is between 20 and 30ng
However, when I recently (after the beginning of detoxification) decided to use it, I got something like sunstroke. Some kind of light-headedness.
Withdrawal from other vitamins increases sun sensitivity, as well as low levels of D25 by themselves.
Lightheadedness, racing thoughts, sweating, fatigue, nap attacks, insomnia, weight loss, extra intolerances(like carbs, zinc) become typical symptoms.
Ray Peet thinks 60 is perfect. The Maasai were measured, they had three-digit vitamin D.
Yes, I partially have these symptoms. Narcolepsy is common in ADHD and is treated with the same medications.
Ray is largely a dietitian - he has no precise knowledge on the vit D biological pathways in the body, thus his opinion on optimal levels is irrelevant.
The Maasai were measured, they had three-digit vitamin D.
Yeah and 2 digits IQ.
Coconut oil doesn't have much tocotrienols. You would get much more from eating things like brown rice or whole wheat.
Quote from rockarolla on July 5, 2021, 2:18 amRay is largely a dietitian - he has no precise knowledge on the vit D biological pathways in the body, thus his opinion on optimal levels is irrelevant.
He's not a dietician. He's educated in biology with a specialization in physiology, expert in hormones, stress, energy. I think Garret's thoughts on vitamin D is a bunch of nonsense, he's the guy who doesn't understand precise physiology. Anyways why would you trust either of them instead of going by what you feel best on?
He's not a dietician. He's educated in biology with a specialization in physiology, expert in hormones, stress, energy. I think Garret's thoughts on vitamin D is a bunch of nonsense, he's the guy who doesn't understand precise physiology. Anyways why would you trust either of them instead of going by what you feel best on?
He is educated in basic biology tens years ago, while current vitamin D research is already much more sophisticated.
Anyways why would you trust either of them instead of going by what you feel best on?
Because "listening to the body" is a bad advice.