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Hermes on November 22, 2023, 9:16 am
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Arket on November 22, 2023, 9:31 am
I think I'm going to leave from this forum. I said in my first post that I'm not here to debate about different diets. I really don't care what the fuck you're eating and I have no fucking reason to push my diet to any of you. Why can't people just accept this, why do you have to judge every food that I eat, did I ask you to do it? No, I specifically said that I do not want or need to have any debates about foods or hear your opinions about them. This forum just makes me more angry and sad about life, what's the point of being in here?
I think I'm going to leave from this forum. I said in my first post that I'm not here to debate about different diets. I really don't care what the fuck you're eating and I have no fucking reason to push my diet to any of you. Why can't people just accept this, why do you have to judge every food that I eat, did I ask you to do it? No, I specifically said that I do not want or need to have any debates about foods or hear your opinions about them. This forum just makes me more angry and sad about life, what's the point of being in here?
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Arket on November 22, 2023, 9:02 am
@arios
That's funny. You know what my diet was when I first became sick? I basically ate nothing but beef, rice, whey protein and supplements. I also took AST-SS MultiPro 32X multivitamin 2 tablets every day and one tablet has 30mg of zinc. So every day I got 60mg(!) of zinc from supplements plus all the zinc from beef and whey. So I ate high animal protein and high zinc diet when I first became sick with all of my problems I have. It was years later when I started my current diet.
You created micronutrient imbalance nothing unusual on unbalanced diet like that. When I eat beef I don't take any zinc that day. It is not needed. If your diet was beef, rice and beans without supplements you didn't create copper. molybdenum, potassium and other micro deficiencies.. So to blame beef for your health issues doesn't make any sense.. Supplements are supplements because you should look at your diet and supplement what is not there. On your beef and rice diet was missing a lot of micronutrients, but zinc was not one of them.. That is very simple nutrition and common sense. Funny that YOU are saying something about how there is not much intelligence on this forum for your liking..
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Arket on November 22, 2023, 9:02 am
@arios
That's funny. You know what my diet was when I first became sick? I basically ate nothing but beef, rice, whey protein and supplements. I also took AST-SS MultiPro 32X multivitamin 2 tablets every day and one tablet has 30mg of zinc. So every day I got 60mg(!) of zinc from supplements plus all the zinc from beef and whey. So I ate high animal protein and high zinc diet when I first became sick with all of my problems I have. It was years later when I started my current diet.
You created micronutrient imbalance nothing unusual on unbalanced diet like that. When I eat beef I don't take any zinc that day. It is not needed. If your diet was beef, rice and beans without supplements you didn't create copper. molybdenum, potassium and other micro deficiencies.. So to blame beef for your health issues doesn't make any sense.. Supplements are supplements because you should look at your diet and supplement what is not there. On your beef and rice diet was missing a lot of micronutrients, but zinc was not one of them.. That is very simple nutrition and common sense. Funny that YOU are saying something about how there is not much intelligence on this forum for your liking..
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Arket on November 22, 2023, 11:30 am
@jiri
I don't know why I even bother explaining, but my beef and rice diet was over 10 years ago and I never blamed zinc for my health problems, I only blamed vA toxicity. Also only after that I got sick I started reading studies and nutrition and really educating myself instead of just copying what other people/bodybuilders did/ate.
@jiri
I don't know why I even bother explaining, but my beef and rice diet was over 10 years ago and I never blamed zinc for my health problems, I only blamed vA toxicity. Also only after that I got sick I started reading studies and nutrition and really educating myself instead of just copying what other people/bodybuilders did/ate.
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Arket on November 22, 2023, 12:11 pm
It seems that it has become impossible to move forward now with all the animosity I have gathered with my comments. My psychiatrist suggested to me that I should try to seek some human interaction and give people a chance even though I said that people always start fighting over stupid little things and the cycle never ends. I'm sad that I was right.
I just wanted to have some human interaction, something positive. If vA toxicity ends up being the thing that was wrong with me and I get better, I will surely thank Grant privately for saving my life. I won't be coming to this forum anymore, so the end of my story will stay a mystery forever for the rest of you.
Good luck to you all on your journeys! I wish there was a world where we all could give each other piece to be what ever we want to be and eat what ever we want without the constant judging.
It seems that it has become impossible to move forward now with all the animosity I have gathered with my comments. My psychiatrist suggested to me that I should try to seek some human interaction and give people a chance even though I said that people always start fighting over stupid little things and the cycle never ends. I'm sad that I was right.
I just wanted to have some human interaction, something positive. If vA toxicity ends up being the thing that was wrong with me and I get better, I will surely thank Grant privately for saving my life. I won't be coming to this forum anymore, so the end of my story will stay a mystery forever for the rest of you.
Good luck to you all on your journeys! I wish there was a world where we all could give each other piece to be what ever we want to be and eat what ever we want without the constant judging.
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sand on November 22, 2023, 12:20 pm
Good luck to you too @arket, those were some good last words, sorry this forum wasn’t for you!
Good luck to you too @arket, those were some good last words, sorry this forum wasn’t for you!
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Jessica2 on November 22, 2023, 12:30 pm
Honestly, online interactions for social purposes is the worst idea ever.
If you are fragile mentally in anyway its a bad idea. People are vicious online. Its the nature of the medium.
This is very true.
You got to have very thick skin on the internet.
It is also very important to have social interactions in personal with real humans you can touch, see and hear, without a screen.
@arket there was one thing I forgot to ask you about... Do you spend lots of time in nature in the sun with lots of skin in the game, during summers in Finland? And if, have it impacted your health in one way or another? I just know that for me spending a whole day at a lake on hot rocks is so healing, the most healing thing I can do.. for my mental health and also my body. Just wondered if you experienced that too...
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Jessica2 on November 22, 2023, 12:30 pm
Honestly, online interactions for social purposes is the worst idea ever.
If you are fragile mentally in anyway its a bad idea. People are vicious online. Its the nature of the medium.
This is very true.
You got to have very thick skin on the internet.
It is also very important to have social interactions in personal with real humans you can touch, see and hear, without a screen.
@arket there was one thing I forgot to ask you about... Do you spend lots of time in nature in the sun with lots of skin in the game, during summers in Finland? And if, have it impacted your health in one way or another? I just know that for me spending a whole day at a lake on hot rocks is so healing, the most healing thing I can do.. for my mental health and also my body. Just wondered if you experienced that too...
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Hermes on November 22, 2023, 1:51 pm
I would even go so far as to say that online interaction is not real social interaction. It's staring at a screen, it's petting a glass surface, it's throwing out infantile emojis... it's missing so many things that make real human interactions fun, exhilarating, surprising. Flirting with another woman for real can feel both dangerous and stimulating; it's never the same in text, especially the touching part. Being comforted by someone who actually looks you in the face makes the words so much more meaningful. Seeing friends again for a sauna retreat is something to look forward to – how could such an experience ever be replaced by Meta verse, however fancy it might be!
I would even go so far as to say that online interaction is not real social interaction. It's staring at a screen, it's petting a glass surface, it's throwing out infantile emojis... it's missing so many things that make real human interactions fun, exhilarating, surprising. Flirting with another woman for real can feel both dangerous and stimulating; it's never the same in text, especially the touching part. Being comforted by someone who actually looks you in the face makes the words so much more meaningful. Seeing friends again for a sauna retreat is something to look forward to – how could such an experience ever be replaced by Meta verse, however fancy it might be!
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Hermes on November 22, 2023, 1:51 pm
I would even go so far as to say that online interaction is not real social interaction. It's staring at a screen, it's petting a glass surface, it's throwing out infantile emojis... it's missing so many things that make real human interactions fun, exhilarating, surprising. Flirting with another woman for real can feel both dangerous and stimulating; it's never the same in text, especially the touching part. Being comforted by someone who actually looks you in the face makes the words so much more meaningful. Seeing friends again for a sauna retreat is something to look forward to – how could such an experience ever be replaced by Meta verse, however fancy it might be!
This is so true. It is impossible to know how someone is like through the screen. I learned that the hard way. I am thankful for that lesson! Bullying is also very easy on the internet. In real life, it is completely different. Once you learn these things you get thick skin on internet. And in real life it can be thin because there you can use your sixth sense and people will feel you and you will feel them.
I wonder if the older generation like us who grew up without any cellphones or internet, have an easier time with this distinction. We dont take internet personally because we know it is not. The younger generation if used lots of tech, maybe easier merge with it somehow. Just a thought I have been thinking because I have heard there is a lot of internet bullying going on and people kill themselves because of that. It is so crazy because why dont they just shut down the whole thing instead. Or grow thick skin.
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Hermes on November 22, 2023, 1:51 pm
I would even go so far as to say that online interaction is not real social interaction. It's staring at a screen, it's petting a glass surface, it's throwing out infantile emojis... it's missing so many things that make real human interactions fun, exhilarating, surprising. Flirting with another woman for real can feel both dangerous and stimulating; it's never the same in text, especially the touching part. Being comforted by someone who actually looks you in the face makes the words so much more meaningful. Seeing friends again for a sauna retreat is something to look forward to – how could such an experience ever be replaced by Meta verse, however fancy it might be!
This is so true. It is impossible to know how someone is like through the screen. I learned that the hard way. I am thankful for that lesson! Bullying is also very easy on the internet. In real life, it is completely different. Once you learn these things you get thick skin on internet. And in real life it can be thin because there you can use your sixth sense and people will feel you and you will feel them.
I wonder if the older generation like us who grew up without any cellphones or internet, have an easier time with this distinction. We dont take internet personally because we know it is not. The younger generation if used lots of tech, maybe easier merge with it somehow. Just a thought I have been thinking because I have heard there is a lot of internet bullying going on and people kill themselves because of that. It is so crazy because why dont they just shut down the whole thing instead. Or grow thick skin.
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