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Breast feeding reduces breast cancer risk.... because of retinol detox?
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Jenny on December 16, 2019, 3:11 pm
Toxicity v deficiency...or probably both at play. Interesting lil chick that your family shows the opposite. Nothing ever simple! I wonder when your Mum took vA for acne - that could have made a difference to subsequent children maybe. My lovely Mum was definitely vA toxic - she had sun allergy in her 40s & episodes of looking yellow & all sorts of other vA indications. We just didn’t know it. All that dam cod liver oil 😞
Toxicity v deficiency...or probably both at play. Interesting lil chick that your family shows the opposite. Nothing ever simple! I wonder when your Mum took vA for acne - that could have made a difference to subsequent children maybe. My lovely Mum was definitely vA toxic - she had sun allergy in her 40s & episodes of looking yellow & all sorts of other vA indications. We just didn’t know it. All that dam cod liver oil 😞
My last born also has the worst problems, but I also have 11 years between my oldest and youngest and in between that time I was super "healthy"-wapf,paleo, & yummy clo!
Interesting that I had horrible morning sickness with all three of my children, but again, with the last where I was "healthiest" I was sick up until she was born. I really think morning sickness might have played an important role in not having extremely sick babies.
Also, I never really thought about extended breastfeeding -I breastfed my kids each for well over two years -which makes me feel a little guilty no w! Looking back I always felt better during those breastfeeding years and then my health would slowly decline when they were done...some interesting food for thought!
My last born also has the worst problems, but I also have 11 years between my oldest and youngest and in between that time I was super "healthy"-wapf,paleo, & yummy clo!
Interesting that I had horrible morning sickness with all three of my children, but again, with the last where I was "healthiest" I was sick up until she was born. I really think morning sickness might have played an important role in not having extremely sick babies.
Also, I never really thought about extended breastfeeding -I breastfed my kids each for well over two years -which makes me feel a little guilty no w! Looking back I always felt better during those breastfeeding years and then my health would slowly decline when they were done...some interesting food for thought!
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bludicka on December 16, 2019, 11:53 pm
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JAJ on December 16, 2019, 10:16 am
@bludicka We evolved in a clean world so toxicity wasn’t such an issue.
I was the firstborn and my mother was never really a healthy person, she never liked cooking and healthy foods. But exactly, we evolved in a clean world and we are not adapted to the amount of toxins, electrosmog in today's world. I saw somewhere hair analysis of several months old babies, exactly copying their parents' toxic profile. If the mother had high aluminum, the newborn had it too. Babies with permeable blood-brain barrier receive vaccines with heavy metals and they get them direct into the blood - we certainly didn't manage to adapt to that.
I also think that young mothers are not as toxic as a woman in her forties and now many women have children later. They have more amalgam fillings, the possibility of chronic VA toxicity increases with age, more vaccines, more various drugs... I remember that my mother had severe acne in her youth and as a nurse she had access to medicines, I don't know if she was taking something, but it's likely.
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JAJ on December 16, 2019, 10:16 am
@bludicka We evolved in a clean world so toxicity wasn’t such an issue.
I was the firstborn and my mother was never really a healthy person, she never liked cooking and healthy foods. But exactly, we evolved in a clean world and we are not adapted to the amount of toxins, electrosmog in today's world. I saw somewhere hair analysis of several months old babies, exactly copying their parents' toxic profile. If the mother had high aluminum, the newborn had it too. Babies with permeable blood-brain barrier receive vaccines with heavy metals and they get them direct into the blood - we certainly didn't manage to adapt to that.
I also think that young mothers are not as toxic as a woman in her forties and now many women have children later. They have more amalgam fillings, the possibility of chronic VA toxicity increases with age, more vaccines, more various drugs... I remember that my mother had severe acne in her youth and as a nurse she had access to medicines, I don't know if she was taking something, but it's likely.
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Rachel on December 17, 2019, 2:51 am
This is a really interesting thread! Several things make me believe I have been mildly VA toxic from a v young age. One of these is that I have always had a sun "allergy" but I've not been able to see where I would have got this toxicity.
My mum was born in the 40's in the UK and like the other commenter she remembers having daily CLO at school alongside molasses. I am the second child though and neither of us was breast fed. I've wondered if I simply have more genetic combinations that slow down my VA detox system. I have been wondering about getting VA in utero and the links above showing heavy metals passed to child in utero makes me think this is a possibility.
My sister has better health than me but she had two children in her 20's which may have helped her and I am childless so maybe that is a factor.
Interestingly my mum had lupus vulgaris at about 11 years of age and remembers being given a quinine like drug that turned her skin orange (the Dr's warned that would happen). Quinine is one of the drugs Garrett Smith warns about impeding VA detox pathways. My mum also has sun allergy and my sister developed it in her late teens.
I guess all that really matters is resolving the health issues I now have, but I like to make sense of the overall picture where I can.
This is a really interesting thread! Several things make me believe I have been mildly VA toxic from a v young age. One of these is that I have always had a sun "allergy" but I've not been able to see where I would have got this toxicity.
My mum was born in the 40's in the UK and like the other commenter she remembers having daily CLO at school alongside molasses. I am the second child though and neither of us was breast fed. I've wondered if I simply have more genetic combinations that slow down my VA detox system. I have been wondering about getting VA in utero and the links above showing heavy metals passed to child in utero makes me think this is a possibility.
My sister has better health than me but she had two children in her 20's which may have helped her and I am childless so maybe that is a factor.
Interestingly my mum had lupus vulgaris at about 11 years of age and remembers being given a quinine like drug that turned her skin orange (the Dr's warned that would happen). Quinine is one of the drugs Garrett Smith warns about impeding VA detox pathways. My mum also has sun allergy and my sister developed it in her late teens.
I guess all that really matters is resolving the health issues I now have, but I like to make sense of the overall picture where I can.
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Jenny on December 17, 2019, 4:26 am
@curious observer your experience fits with the toxicity building up but you should certainly not feel guilty (although I know what you mean) because we all do the best we can with the knowledge we have. We are not to know the knowledge is wrong. I too was very sick throughout my pregnancies.
@bludicka very interesting about the hair mineral profiles - it makes sense & also your observation about older mothers - that would certainly be true for most.
@rachel so interesting that your Mum was a receiver of the 1940s CLO. An experienced UK nutritional therapist has told me that she thinks this is the source of many problems (she is the only person in UK talking about vitamin A toxicity) but she thinks the problem will phase out & is worst for those in their 70s (as she is). However, I think she has under appreciated how it is handed down to children & then with the more toxic medicated world the problem is worse than ever.
@curious observer your experience fits with the toxicity building up but you should certainly not feel guilty (although I know what you mean) because we all do the best we can with the knowledge we have. We are not to know the knowledge is wrong. I too was very sick throughout my pregnancies.
@bludicka very interesting about the hair mineral profiles - it makes sense & also your observation about older mothers - that would certainly be true for most.
@rachel so interesting that your Mum was a receiver of the 1940s CLO. An experienced UK nutritional therapist has told me that she thinks this is the source of many problems (she is the only person in UK talking about vitamin A toxicity) but she thinks the problem will phase out & is worst for those in their 70s (as she is). However, I think she has under appreciated how it is handed down to children & then with the more toxic medicated world the problem is worse than ever.
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bludicka on December 17, 2019, 4:57 am
Hair Analysis results from 18 children and one adult diagnosed with ADD/ADHD:
http://www.nostudentleftbehind.org/ADDADHD.html
Below are Hair Mineral Analysis Results of a Mother, Father and their two Autistic children:
http://www.nostudentleftbehind.org/Autism.html
"Some newborns with and already weakened immune system from their parents can’t withstand the extra levels of toxins. The result is a child that develops Autism, ADD/ADHD, Learning Disabilities or a host of other diseases including Diabetes, Heart Disease, Cancer, Muscular Dystrophy, etc."
"These diseases can be prevented if parents detox their bodies prior to conception and follow a pure lifestyle."
Hair Analysis results from 18 children and one adult diagnosed with ADD/ADHD:
http://www.nostudentleftbehind.org/ADDADHD.html
Below are Hair Mineral Analysis Results of a Mother, Father and their two Autistic children:
http://www.nostudentleftbehind.org/Autism.html
"Some newborns with and already weakened immune system from their parents can’t withstand the extra levels of toxins. The result is a child that develops Autism, ADD/ADHD, Learning Disabilities or a host of other diseases including Diabetes, Heart Disease, Cancer, Muscular Dystrophy, etc."
"These diseases can be prevented if parents detox their bodies prior to conception and follow a pure lifestyle."
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lil chick on January 3, 2020, 8:10 am
I'm writing a snippet and need a paper or study that might help show that VA toxic mothers might be transferring loads of VA into their babies inadvertently... anyone got a pointer for me? TIA
I'm writing a snippet and need a paper or study that might help show that VA toxic mothers might be transferring loads of VA into their babies inadvertently... anyone got a pointer for me? TIA
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Rachel on January 3, 2020, 9:03 am
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lil chick on January 3, 2020, 8:10 am
I'm writing a snippet and need a paper or study that might help show that VA toxic mothers might be transferring loads of VA into their babies inadvertently... anyone got a pointer for me? TIA
Have you looked at Grants ebook on breast cancer? It's a while since I read it so I can't remember the contents that clearly.
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lil chick on January 3, 2020, 8:10 am
I'm writing a snippet and need a paper or study that might help show that VA toxic mothers might be transferring loads of VA into their babies inadvertently... anyone got a pointer for me? TIA
Have you looked at Grants ebook on breast cancer? It's a while since I read it so I can't remember the contents that clearly.
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lil chick on January 3, 2020, 9:17 am
It's funny but I've been avoiding that book (sorry Grant!) in an effort not to feed my hypochondria. 🙂 It's tough when you know you are neurotic. hahaha
It's funny but I've been avoiding that book (sorry Grant!) in an effort not to feed my hypochondria. 🙂 It's tough when you know you are neurotic. hahaha
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