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Carnivore diet (all animal foods)

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Quote from Hermes on February 9, 2024, 11:14 am

I'd be careful with the word genius. Just because someone has an IQ above the charts doesn't make them a genius. High productivity, advancing a field, or possibly even disrupting it, is a hallmark in my opinion, and obviously that's only possible with high intelligence, especially in fields that are very demanding on working memory like physics and math. But the question is, who decides what is a valuable contribution to a particular field? van Gogh couldn't sell a single painting in his lifetime, but was recognized only after his death. Can one be a genius without being recognized as such? Probably.

And then there is this putting such brilliant people on a pedestal, somehow making them superior to everyone else and giving them special value. I think it's important to realize that I have value too, besides the fact that I'm as average as it gets. Nothing extraordinary. And that's okay, because by definition, most of us are average. That's not to say that there isn't an uneven distribution of talent. Making everyone the same in school is a terrible idea, the best way to stop progress in society if great achievements can't be celebrated because other students might feel bad about it. Such things happen. The woke culture doesn't stop at the schoolhouse door.

@christian, I agree. High IQ is not a measurement if something is good or useful for humanity.

I so agree with the school system we currently have, not helping our kids.

We had this family friend as a kid, he was a mathematics professor traveling the world and lecturing, and his wife told us he was not able to pack his suitcase, so she had to do it for him always. She packed one pair of socks, undies, etc for each day in a way that he would know what to put on every day.

In response to Christian's post above, I believe there are loads of other gifts besides being a brainiac... But it is just as wrong to pretend it isn't a thing to be "fair" to everyone.    The bell curve is a real thing, and yes, most of us are in the middle!   But there are the braniacs and the non-braniacs, a small percentage of people.   It's a real thing.   

And yes, braniacs might not be that good with real life, just as they might not be that good at some things that average people manage quite easily.   I have a braniac person in my life and he is a very loving guy but you might not want to ask him to babysit your dog, LOL.

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There's a whole host of positive outcomes associated with higher intelligence. Better income, better job performance, higher education, better health, and so on. It's a cliché, the brainiac who can't function in everyday life. Inger's example sounds more like a spoiled husband who thinks it's beneath him to pack his own suitcase. I doubt that he was "unable". That's a trait independent of intelligence, more of a character quirk or flaw (however you want to see it).

There is this theory of multiple intelligence by Howard Gardner. He identifies seven different types of intelligence (visual, linguistic, logical, bodily, musical, interpersonal, and intrapersonal). However, they are correlated. Which only confirms life experience. Who hasn't met the person who could do it all: play a musical instrument well, work as a lawyer, speak several languages, and even be a sweetheart? The fact remains that we're all unevenly gifted.

It would probably be wise as a society to put more emphasis on trade schools and encourage young people to learn a trade well instead of sending them all to college and getting a useless degree. A competent plumber makes good money. And I doubt there'll ever be robot plumbers doing the job, not in my lifetime. And if we weren't so corrupt as a society, we'd pay attention to excessive pay disparities. How can a CEO be worth $1 million? But the janitor barely makes minimum wage? That's the real tragedy. That we are exploiting those who are already weak instead of respecting them by compensating menial labor fairly. There should be laws to prevent such enormous wage disparities. It would be possible and still remain competitive. But we now know for a fact that governments don't work for a cohesive society, but want to create chaos and intentionally harm citizens.

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I was on a channel called "Kent Carnivore" and it was really interesting.    The guy had ulcerative colitis (UC) and had his colon removed and has has a bag for a decade.   Because there is a little window in the bag he can see when things make it through undigested.    He says that veg and fruit come down undigested but meat never does.   And so because of that he went carnivore.   He looked well.

I thought it was so interesting.    

I went over to reddit and UC people there talked about his channel and their mixed results with carnivore.   For some it worked, for others not so much.

Of course, we here would think:  well perhaps that is because they are VA overloaded and they might need interventions regarding that.

One thing mentioned is that perhaps if you are going to do high-fiber things, cook them to death.   That agrees with my Grandmother's diet.

I think this example also plays up the importance of meat in our diets.   Especially when the gut stops performing well.

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