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Quote from Jiří on December 20, 2023, 12:46 am

@inger "oh, are your lymph nodes painful to touch... I dont have that. Then one needs to be careful I guess, or very gentle!"

heh I massaged the lymph nodes under my ears close to jaw yesterday and today the whole area is painful and sensitive and I have nice headache. Maybe that headache is not related. I am sick for the last 10 days... Anyway I will massage that jaw/ear area daily from now on for sure. There is a major blockage for sure..

@jiri it could be detox, your headache. The doctor in the video about the lymph massage says it is normal to feel the detox when starting. My cough got worse again too the second day I did it...

I have this annoying forever lasting cough after I had the flu several weeks ago. I just had high fever for one night and next day low fever and the day after I felt great and went outside in -14 degree doing lots of snow work in front of the house and I never use a hat I get so annoyed but that thing. Then I got this cough that comes deep from the lungs and it is not going away. Good thing I dont work at the moment. When spring comes I am sure it will be gone.I have a feeling lots of people are sick atm or recently was.

Quote from Janelle525 on December 19, 2023, 2:26 pm
Quote from Inger on December 19, 2023, 11:31 am
Quote from Jiří on December 19, 2023, 10:09 am

@inger I do lymphatic brushing and like the guys said. I always start around the clavicles/ upper chest. But I never massage lymph nodes around jaw/under ears and that is mistake. Because they are painful on touch. So I will do them as well.. If you are too alkaline I think you need more protein and stomach acid. So more meat and maybe apple cider vinegar before the meals?

@jiri oh, are your lymph nodes painful to touch... I dont have that. Then one needs to be careful I guess, or very gentle!

The weird thing is that I have more than enough stomach acid I can digest food just fine and I digest meat wonderfully, I eat a pound of meat a day at least. Mostly more. Somehow it just does not fit. I should have too little stomach acid if I am too alkaline but I dont! I have zero issues digesting food. Maybe his theory is faulty?!

It doesn't necessarily mean low stomach acid. It just means your body is holding on to CO2 to balance your pH levels. It's the main way we balance our blood pH. By adjusting how quickly we blow off CO2. It could mean you aren't producing much CO2 from carbs. How many carbs a day do you eat?

@janelle I eat around 1 to 2 cups of veggies / day more like 1. And then beans of course. 1 to 2 cups of beans too. And then often I do eat nuts, several handful of them. Some days none. Once in a while an apple. But I dont really do much carbs. I did gorge on Lindt chocolate when I was sick a couple weeks ago, I got such a craving of it. Now the craving is gone.

It seems like a lot of this thread is about fixing the gut.

Out of all my systems (and I knock on wood here) my gut is the one that has had the least troubles.  Beyond my occasional poisoning attacks, at least.   Maybe the poisoning sessions (everything must go!)  saved my gut.  In a way, they are much like the coffee enemas people take.

Would blood-type O's benefit more than other blood types when it comes to carnivore?  D'Adamo would say so!  (but his ideas didn't catch on).  Or at least leaning toward more meat.   D'Adamo seems right about my gut not doing well on fiber.

I made kefir for many years as a WAPF'er, and I do believe in probiotic food.  I also like the idea of acid things like coffee, wine, pickles, lemon.  

Lately I've been thinking more about visceral fat and loss of muscle tone.   I've always worked outside and with my body, as a life-long gardener.   Recently my gut went from good to great with the sprint-like exercise and stopping snacking.   I can totally see now that some part of digestion might be about not having an overstuffed-sausage gut and having good muscle tone.

I ate a bunch of beans this week and I could feel a distinct and unwelcome heaviness/bloating down low.  For me, the idea of "well behaved" vegetable matter fits.    Strangely enough, gluten is on my "well-behaved" list.    I can eat small amounts of the higher-fiber things that I prepare for husband who insists he needs them  (he is a different blood type, btw).  Maybe they have helped me over time, it makes sense to me that fiber might help detox.

Another pet theory of mine is that women MIGHT need carbs more than men do.   (based on my reaction to ultra-low carb)

All of this totally agrees what my grandmother ate that brought her to 100 ...Your genetics may vary

This video describes the last 5 or so years of the Peterson's family's diet changes from the point of view of Tammy, Jordan Peterson's wife.   Very, very interesting!    You know, I've heard that Jordan Peterson's IQ is sky high and I've often thought that amazingly smart people tend toward easily-upset systems.   Perhaps it is somewhat like being an overbred Parisian poodle, compared to a back-woods mutt. 

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Perhaps she would have been OK on the prison-food diet IF she had been able to do grains etc,  but perhaps this family burnt out their abilities to eat anything but meat?

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I have a question about carnivore, and if I could I'd ask the Petersons... It is:    how many meals a day?

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@lil-chick geniuses have their own issues... One of my brothers is a genius. He has the best number in the big school he attended. A 1 in everything. It is very uncommon. But as he grew up to an adult he developed Schizophrenia and now lives in assisted living apartment. It is sad because he is such a genius and he was such an sweet awesome little boy, so healthy and cute! I do believe it is partly because of trauma though. He is a high sensitive person too and the childhood trauma I think is what made the illness appear in the end....

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I knew a person with that, and she seemed to have both trauma and food issues.   She was fairly toothless and survived on tea and cigarettes.  Getting anyone to listen... that your person with mental issues needs food changes... is impossible.

Quote from lil chick on February 9, 2024, 9:11 am

I knew a person with that, and she seemed to have both trauma and food issues.   She was fairly toothless and survived on tea and cigarettes.  Getting anyone to listen... that your person with mental issues needs food changes... is impossible.

my dear little bro, you know... he always want to save the planet.. and he is eating from the trash what other people leaves 🙁 its so sad. He wants to do it and he does not listen.

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I'd be careful with the word genius. Just because someone has an IQ above the charts doesn't make them a genius. High productivity, advancing a field, or possibly even disrupting it, is a hallmark in my opinion, and obviously that's only possible with high intelligence, especially in fields that are very demanding on working memory like physics and math. But the question is, who decides what is a valuable contribution to a particular field? van Gogh couldn't sell a single painting in his lifetime, but was recognized only after his death. Can one be a genius without being recognized as such? Probably.

And then there is this putting such brilliant people on a pedestal, somehow making them superior to everyone else and giving them special value. I think it's important to realize that I have value too, besides the fact that I'm as average as it gets. Nothing extraordinary. And that's okay, because by definition, most of us are average. That's not to say that there isn't an uneven distribution of talent. Making everyone the same in school is a terrible idea, the best way to stop progress in society if great achievements can't be celebrated because other students might feel bad about it. Such things happen. The woke culture doesn't stop at the schoolhouse door.

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