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Quote from Joe2 on September 10, 2025, 12:25 amQuote from Lauren Von on June 25, 2025, 5:01 pm@tommyWhere are you at now with this? I too have similar concerns. I also want to mention here that for dogs it is essential to feed bones (either raw or powdered dried raw) to provide the right mineral balance and enough minerals in general. Eggshells cannot accomplish this. In terms of organ feeding, I feel torn. I have cut way back and didn’t give my dog much liver, except a random treat here or there, for a year. No other organs except tripe and spleen. I feed heart, but that’s a muscle. And it is lower A. She still has her same issues as the previous 9 years. The psyche is a big part of it. But so is the physiology and resilience. Maybe it just takes more time. She has eaten a lot of organ meat in her life the years before I found Grant and Garrett. I’d love to talk more about it.
What about feeding the amount of organs that would equate to the percentage of the entire animal, adjusted for a meal size? Even though a dog probably wouldn’t eat ALL the bone weight, this ratio is on the cautious side with regard to organs. A deer’s liver is 1-2% of its body weight.
That said, dogs are scavengers as well as hunters. So who knows how much organ meat they need vs how much they would eat if they could. I have heard stories of animals in the wild being observed who work on for hours to get the liver out rather than chew on a hind quarter full of meat. I do wish we had food answers. Thank you all for sharing your ideas and for loving your animals. Well wishes to all of you.
Working for hours to get the liver out is confusing. The liver is the easiest quickest softest thing to pull out of a carcass. When it does get eaten it is usually a rushed deal as an opportunist is being driven off by a larger animal. I have often heard wolf kills where stomach and tripe is devoured first and then the muscle meat and bones. Our neighbor's dog caught a baby bird. Held it in her mouth while we tried to get it from her. Dodged here and there. Once far enough away, she dropped it, deftly opened it, flicked out liver and ate the rest whole. Walked away. Imagine what it takes to do all that in a hurry to keep us from grabbing it. Imagine why.
Quote from Lauren Von on June 25, 2025, 5:01 pmWhere are you at now with this? I too have similar concerns. I also want to mention here that for dogs it is essential to feed bones (either raw or powdered dried raw) to provide the right mineral balance and enough minerals in general. Eggshells cannot accomplish this. In terms of organ feeding, I feel torn. I have cut way back and didn’t give my dog much liver, except a random treat here or there, for a year. No other organs except tripe and spleen. I feed heart, but that’s a muscle. And it is lower A. She still has her same issues as the previous 9 years. The psyche is a big part of it. But so is the physiology and resilience. Maybe it just takes more time. She has eaten a lot of organ meat in her life the years before I found Grant and Garrett. I’d love to talk more about it.
What about feeding the amount of organs that would equate to the percentage of the entire animal, adjusted for a meal size? Even though a dog probably wouldn’t eat ALL the bone weight, this ratio is on the cautious side with regard to organs. A deer’s liver is 1-2% of its body weight.
That said, dogs are scavengers as well as hunters. So who knows how much organ meat they need vs how much they would eat if they could. I have heard stories of animals in the wild being observed who work on for hours to get the liver out rather than chew on a hind quarter full of meat. I do wish we had food answers. Thank you all for sharing your ideas and for loving your animals. Well wishes to all of you.
Working for hours to get the liver out is confusing. The liver is the easiest quickest softest thing to pull out of a carcass. When it does get eaten it is usually a rushed deal as an opportunist is being driven off by a larger animal. I have often heard wolf kills where stomach and tripe is devoured first and then the muscle meat and bones. Our neighbor's dog caught a baby bird. Held it in her mouth while we tried to get it from her. Dodged here and there. Once far enough away, she dropped it, deftly opened it, flicked out liver and ate the rest whole. Walked away. Imagine what it takes to do all that in a hurry to keep us from grabbing it. Imagine why.
Quote from Joe2 on September 10, 2025, 12:30 amQuote from Lauren Von on June 26, 2025, 4:24 pmRegarding kidney function in dogs…I’m attaching this paper regarding the controversial topic of low-protein diets prescribed for dogs with reduced kidney function. Note the last paragraph on page one! Wow. Do they have any idea what they just pointed out about liver? I’d like to know what you think of this paper.
Wow. Thank you. What a surprise that whenever the sciency folk add protein they add organ meat and more retinoids. Curious that they push low protein on a protein dependent animal at a time when the animal is most protein deficient.
Quote from Lauren Von on June 26, 2025, 4:24 pmRegarding kidney function in dogs…I’m attaching this paper regarding the controversial topic of low-protein diets prescribed for dogs with reduced kidney function. Note the last paragraph on page one! Wow. Do they have any idea what they just pointed out about liver? I’d like to know what you think of this paper.
Wow. Thank you. What a surprise that whenever the sciency folk add protein they add organ meat and more retinoids. Curious that they push low protein on a protein dependent animal at a time when the animal is most protein deficient.