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Charlatans and Opportunists: The Hidden Exploitation in Vitamin A Toxicity Science
Really? I don't understand how you can conclude that Andrew Baird has a messiah complex. He sounds far from delusional, actually very down to earth, personable, knowledgeable and genuine. I think Andrew tried detoxing with rice, meat and beans before he discovered the benefits of eggs. Anyway, this smear is completely unfounded.
I personally may never eat eggs again. I just lost my friend, she was very sick with a bile blockage, just passed away. A couple weeks before she passed they had received a bunch of eggs from people at church and she was trying to give some to me. I'm not positive she ate a lot of them, but from everything I'm learning eating a bunch of eggs everyday is not good. I wanted to give the opinion a chance and added them back in and experience increased anxiety. But then again I react the same to lecithin.
@jessica2
Thank-you. I'm sorry for your loss as well. It is very hard to see people suffer.
I personally think humans would live to 120 if nutrition and lifestyle is on point. So if someone makes it to 80 I don't generally thinks that's a health accomplishment. That's why a lot of people questioned Ray Peat's diet when he died of a stroke at 86. I do believe the egg studies showed one egg per day being good, but I don't think I saw many that said 3 or more per day increasing longevity. And most people don't just eat one egg when they do make them for breakfast.
But yeah it's very hard to say what caused my friend's liver problem. It could have been a toxic supplement she was taking, I know she carried around bottles of supplements with her. Which is another reason why I'm fed up with the health food world. So many things that can absolutely destroy someone's life when they thought it was supposed to help them.
Quote from Jessica2 on August 3, 2024, 8:05 am... He doesn't get money from Big Egg.
...If VA is not a straight poison then someone saying eggs are actually good for you for all the reasons that they've said is not someone being evil or someone with ulterior motives.
BIG EGG! hahahahaha. Love it
Personally I think VA is just part of life on Earth and we have ways of dealing with it that last about as long as life lasts. Sometimes our ways to deal with it get used up too soon. But we all have a very good chance at being well enough in spite of it. There is no life on earth without it. To me, it's just another veg toxin among others. But very very ubiquitous, which makes it more of a problem than some others. Harder to avoid. And it leaks into animal foods maybe more than others.
This thread marks the low point of the forum. Personal accusations and smearing rather than discussion. I am disgusted with this opening comment. Meredith Arthur deserves an apology. Truly appalling. Her friends and colleagues are similarly appalled. If you dont understand what she is saying and have nothing decent to say then keep quiet.
Quote from Andrew B on August 14, 2024, 9:58 amThis thread marks the low point of the forum. Personal accusations and smearing rather than discussion. I am disgusted with this opening comment. Meredith Arthur deserves an apology. Truly appalling. Her friends and colleagues are similarly appalled. If you dont understand what she is saying and have nothing decent to say then keep quiet.
"have nothing decent to say then keep quiet"
Let me make this clear: This forum values open discussion. If it didn’t, you would’ve been blocked a long time ago. I don't support silencing people, and I never will. Everyone has the right to speak up, and that's exactly what this forum stands for.
Speaking of personal attacks and smearing, I’ve seen your forum where Grant is accused of lying about his health. I was shocked to read a comment from one of your admins suggesting that Grant is faking it by forcing himself to ride miles on a bike every day. And yet, you claim he's intolerant of criticism? Clearly not, since you’re still here.
I simply stated the facts: Meredith Arthur has nothing but a flimsy theory cobbled together from whatever she could scrape off Google Scholar and ScienceDirect. She's spinning a story to sell, plain and simple.
We believe in open discussion—respectfully, of course—and we don’t owe anyone an apology. We’re not going to stay silent just because it might hurt your business. Free speech and expression are more important than your personal profits.
@r-2 You dont speak for this group. The top ten commentators dont agree with Grant that Vitamin A is a poison so dont use the tactic of trying to make me out as saying much out of the mainstream of the group. And that's a private group on Facebook so stop discussing it outside the group. Why dont you do the decent thing and leave ? You clearly dont have it's best interests at heart.
Nobody said Grant was lying or faking it. You're misrepresenting what was said in the group. Again, it shows you dont belong in that group.
You said much worse about Meredith Arthur. The title Charlatans is defamatory. Nobody's making money out of this or selling products. You need to apologise. Another smear about my personal profits. Ridiculous and delusional.
I'm glad Andrew B is here!
I think there is a place for low-medium VA people here, who understand the tradeoffs they are making.
There is no zero-VA diet on planet Earth.
Good for you
Andrew
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